Visionary Innovators: Jobs Vs. Musk

[yuneeq]

https://youtu.be/fiwUE_2JhvY

Feels like watching the old Steve Jobs events

[Dan]

Feels like watching the old Steve Jobs events

Yes.
Though Jobs was far slicker, but Musk is the better man.

[coffeebean]

Feels like watching the old Steve Jobs events

Jobs was easy to listen to.

[Dan]

Jobs was easy to listen to.

He wasn't on the spectrum.

[yesitsme]

Yes.
Though Jobs was far slicker, but Musk is the better man.

his contribution to society is enormous
he has 6 companies effecting from deep down to high up and everything in between
Boring - Tunneling  company BTW also creates and sells bricks
Neuralink
Solar city -solar roof
Tesla
Starlink
spaceX


   
Founder, CEO and Chief Engineer of SpaceX
CEO and product architect of Tesla, Inc.
Founder of The Boring Company and X.com (now part of PayPal)
Co-founder of Neuralink, OpenAI, and Zip2
President of Musk Foundation
Director of Twitter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

and he is involved with them all, he is not just a guy with a couple of bucks that bought companies, these companies are what they are because of his leadership

and everything he does is ground up, redesign reiterate till you get the desired result, we have lot to learn

[Dan]

his contribution to society is enormous
he has 6 companies effecting from deep down to high up and everything in between
Boring - Tunneling  company BTW also creates and sells bricks
Neuralink
Solar city -solar roof
Tesla
Starlink
spaceX


   
Founder, CEO and Chief Engineer of SpaceX
CEO and product architect of Tesla, Inc.
Founder of The Boring Company and X.com (now part of PayPal)
Co-founder of Neuralink, OpenAI, and Zip2
President of Musk Foundation
Director of Twitter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

and he is involved with them all, he is not just a guy with a couple of bucks that bought companies, these companies are what they are because of his leadership

I own zero Apple products, but you can easily argue that Jobs' contribution to society was equal to if not greater than Musk's.
Then again the book is (mostly) closed on Jobs, while Musk can still go to the Moon. Or Mars.

[coffeebean]

I own zero Apple products, but you can easily argue that Jobs' contribution to society was equal to if not greater than Musk's.
Then again the book is (mostly) closed on Jobs, while Musk can still go to the Moon. Or Mars.

If Musk's projections turn into reality they won't be comparable.

[yesitsme]

I own zero Apple products, but you can easily argue that Jobs' contribution was equal to if not greater than Musk's.

other then his apple fans what did he change for the better?
he came with one or 2 massive industry changes and that was it
musk tackles so many unrelated issues

[Dan]

If Musk's projections turn into reality they won't be comparable.

Musk projected my car drive itself coast to coast and be an Uber driver by now too.

[Dan]

other then his apple fans what did he change for the better?
he came with one or 2 massive industry changes and that was it
musk tackles so many unrelated issues

Personal computing and smartphones would not look anything like they do today without Steve Jobs. Full stop.

[coffeebean]

Musk projected my car drive itself coast to coast and be an Uber driver by now too.

He also projected 10 years ago that he will own a massive electric car company. People thought he was crazy. Everything he says put in your calculator, add 3 years, and he's usually right.

[aygart]

Personal computing and smartphones would not look anything like they do today without Steve Jobs. Full stop.

PC probably would. Smartphones were more the marketing that made it into a personal entertainment device.

[Dan]

He also projected 10 years ago that he will own a massive electric car company. People thought he was crazy. Everything he says put in your calculator, add 3 years, and he's usually right.

He said the Model 3 would drive coast to coast by itself in 2019.
Hint: It never will.

[yesitsme]

He said the Model 3 would drive coast to coast by itself in 2019.
Hint: It never will.

we never know
he thinks of cars what we think about elevators

[Dan]

PC probably would.

Highly debatable. Gates/windows famously copied Jobs/Mac.

[coffeebean]

Hint: It never will.

He proved the world wrong

[Dan]

we never know
he thinks of cars what we think about elevators

You're talking to someone who bet $$$$ on FSD and $TSLA in 2018. You don't need to convince me on Musk.
And someone that owns zero AAPL products.
But I can still say that both men were epic innovators that changed and will change the world as know it.

[Dan]

He proved the world wrong

I'm happy to take bets on this one. You need to be able to differentiate between his hype and reality.

[yuneeq]

Jobs was easy to listen to.

Jobs was a master pitchman while Musk is an awkward gazelle. But I meant more in regards to the fanfare and euphoria surrounding the event.

[coffeebean]

I'm happy to take bets on this one. You need to be able to differentiate between his hype and reality.

If FSD and Charging Stations will be fully autonamis, what's preventing it from being your Uber driver?