Libs of Tik Tok

[Shmueli]

Why does CV need to give a definition? You brought it up, gave your definition, and CV is questioning your definition, maybe CV does or doesn’t have a definition of morality.

You can't be what you can't define.

So... Assuming CV considers himself moral, it would be greatly appreciated if he could define it for us.

It's the same circular logic that trans ppl use (as Matt Walsch points out)

Q. Are you a woman?
A. Yes.
Q. What is a woman?
A. Each woman can decide that on their own.
Q. Well then what is it?
A. If you identify or feel as a woman, then you are one.
Q. If you identify or fees as what?
A. I feel triggered by your hate! 

[Shmueli]

Are you again putting words in CV’s mouth?

Where?

Happy to know this is what keeps you up at night, bh! 

LOL!! 

[AsherO]

So then why can't I kill him?

You may have picked a poor example:

רוצח גופיה מנא לן? - סברא הוא; דההוא דאתא לקמיה דרבה, ואמר ליה: אמר לי מרי דוראי זיל קטליה לפלניא, ואי לא - קטלינא לך. אמר ליה: לקטלוך ולא תיקטול; מי יימר דדמא דידך סומק טפי? דילמא דמא דהוא גברא סומק טפי!".

[Shmueli]

רוצח גופיה מנא לן? - סברא הוא; דההוא דאתא לקמיה דרבה, ואמר ליה: אמר לי מרי דוראי זיל קטליה לפלניא, ואי לא - קטלינא לך. אמר ליה: לקטלוך ולא תיקטול; מי יימר דדמא דידך סומק טפי? דילמא דמא דהוא גברא סומק טפי!".

Amazing! Now we're covered.
Still waiting to hear how CV knows it.

[yelped]

Maybe it's time to introduce a age test to JS?

Might help the quality of some conversations here.

[DaasTora]

You may have picked a poor example:

Not everyone understands that svora….
Take the ancient Greeks, Romans, Arabs, etc.

[CountValentine]

Do atheists believe in a higher power?

https://www.atheist-faq.com/where-does-morality-come-from-if-not-god

[CountValentine]

...but overall the 3 major religions historically share much of the same general “biblical moral” beliefs.

Out of curiosity, which three religions?

[imayid2]

Out of curiosity, which three religions?

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam

[CountValentine]

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam

Interesting you did not include Hinduism or Buddhism. What criteria are you using?

[aygart]

https://www.atheist-faq.com/where-does-morality-come-from-if-not-god

Interestingly, this code of morality provides very little story to LGBTQ

[mevinyavin]

Interesting you did not include Hinduism or Buddhism. What criteria are you using?

Hmm... Monotheistic, I guess.

[imayid2]

Interesting you did not include Hinduism or Buddhism. What criteria are you using?

You chose the God of a mosaic religion

[m65]

FULL STOP!!! Wrong again.

The discussion was about a person calling a whole community evil.

if the whole basis of this community is accepting immoral/evil/despicable acts as acceptable, and encouraging ppl to commit these immoral/evil/despicable acts, and trying to brainwash/silence decent ppl into believing so, or to at least keep quiet, then YES, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE IS EVIL

we arent talking about some random community of ppl who happen to commit immoral acts, we are talking about a community built upon immoral principles

[imayid2]

Would @CountValentine object if somebody used the word “immoral” to describe this *community*? And does it really matter if “evil” was used instead?
EVIL
adjective
morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked:
evil deeds;
an evil life.

[zh cohen]

Interestingly, this code of morality provides very little story to LGBTQ

The basic biological instinct for survival and perpetuation of the species should lead one to conclude that a relationship that fundamentally cannot lead to procreation is "disordered" or (in their definition) immoral.

[CountValentine]

You chose the God of a mosaic religion

I just found it interesting you found it to be a major religion when so few people follow it.

[CountValentine]

if the whole basis of this community is accepting immoral/evil/despicable acts as acceptable, and encouraging ppl to commit these immoral/evil/despicable acts, and trying to brainwash/silence decent ppl into believing so, or to at least keep quiet, then YES, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE IS EVIL

we arent talking about some random community of ppl who happen to commit immoral acts, we are talking about a community built upon immoral principles

That is your personal belief and that is fine. Just don't complain when others use their personal beliefs to demonize your community.

[CountValentine]

Would @CountValentine object if somebody used the word “immoral” to describe this *community*? And does it really matter if “evil” was used instead?
EVIL
adjective
morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked:
evil deeds;
an evil life.

I object to demonizing a community based on ones personal beliefs.

[m65]

That is your personal belief and that is fine. Just don't complain when others use their personal beliefs to demonize your community.

id 1000 times over, rather be demonized for being moral than be praised and flattered for being immoral