Libs of Tik Tok

[CountValentine]

FTFY

Is stalking one of your traits?

[aygart]

"They're just evil people, and they're out to groom kids. They're recruiting."

Probably taken out of context? 

Or referring to a subgroup

[aygart]

Seems like people are saying that she's magnifying a very small minority of the LGBTQ community and portraying all of them as evil*. Which (from my understanding) is incorrect because most of these people just want to do their own thing in private.

Also I've seen people complain that she takes things out of context.
 


*evil in the social sense (not discussing religion)

How does magnifying the evils of a subgroup portray others as evil?

[YitzyS]

Is stalking one of your traits?

When you say "your", are you referring to all Jews?

Because you say that when she says "they are evil" that she is referring to the whole demographic.

[CountValentine]

Or referring to a subgroup

She calls the "community" evil over and over. Stop defending this vile person.
What if the NTY call the Jewish Orthodox community evil over and over? Would you make these same dumb arguments?

[CountValentine]

Sometimes things need to be spelled out so a 4 year old can understand. 

your - belonging to or associated with the person or people that the speaker is addressing - context would be YitzyS
they - used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified - context would be LBGTQ community

[aygart]

She calls the "community" evil over and over. Stop defending this vile person.

Without really thinking into it

I understood that to be referring to the activists.

[Yehuda57]

ESH

[CountValentine]

If you know nothing about this vile person, the simple fact that she is on the TC show should tell you something. 

[CountValentine]

Just one of her many vile tweets she has deleted.

[aygart]

Just one of her many vile tweets she has deleted.

What happens in that video?

[EliJelly]

Enabling kids to be raised by 2 males without a female mother is actually vile and gruesome. Fighting that insanity is actually the kind and right thing to do.

(Just saw the Buttigieg name and reminded myself of this *couple's* twins. I didn't see that video, nor do I condone that task should be done nationally/publicly by a frum person)

[yfr bachur]

Sorry, Count Valentine.
"They" as a community are evil and vile.
Each individual is deserving of respect and compassion.

[CountValentine]

Enabling kids to be raised by 2 males without a female mother is actually vile and gruesome. Fighting that insanity is actually the kind and right thing to do.

(Just saw the Buttigieg name and reminded myself of this *couple's* twins. I didn't see that video, nor do I condone that task should be done nationally/publicly by a frum person)

You can fight for what you believe is right without demonizing a person/community.
A great example would be to fight for every child to be taught basic skills in school. You can do this without demonizing a person/community. 

Sorry, Count Valentine.
"They" as a community are evil and vile.
Each individual is deserving of respect and compassion.

Demonize the community but not the individuals that make up the community, got it. Sounds like the NYT.

[yfr bachur]

There's a difference between a self contained community minding its own business taking care of it's own being attacked for its "alegged" communal standards and practices vs a tiny loud group forcing the rest of society to conform to its beliefs (beliefs, that if not for PC pressure, would still be regarded as well beyond the pale, as they have been by the vast majority of society for thousands of years).
They are at best misguided and at worst evil. I will say this no matter how politicaly incorrect it is.

[dm123]

There's a difference between a self contained community minding its own business taking care of it's own being attacked for its "alegged" communal standards and practices vs a tiny loud group forcing the rest of society to conform to its beliefs (beliefs, that if not for PC pressure, would still be regarded as well beyond the pale, as they have been by the vast majority of society for thousands of years).
They are at best misguided and at worst evil. I will say this no matter how politicaly incorrect it is.

So you agree with CV?

The

most of these people just want to do their own thing in private.

is not the problem but the small vocal minority trying to forcibly impose its agenda on others is somewhere on the spectrum of misguided - evil.

(Not digging up a quote but I think I can say with reasonable certainty that CV vehemently disagrees with forcing opinions on others, CMIIW please)

[CountValentine]

(Not digging up a quote but I think I can say with reasonable certainty that CV vehemently disagrees with forcing opinions on others, CMIIW please)

One's personal views/beliefs/opinions should never be forced on others.
The problem we run into is when something mandated by our laws interferes with one's views/beliefs/opinions.

[Shmueli]

One's personal views/beliefs/opinions should never be forced on others.

Except for when we are talking about children.
Then it's child abuse.

If a person's "views/beliefs/opinions" is that it is ok to abuse children, that person is vile and corrupt, and societies' "views/beliefs/opinions" should step in and condemn the abusers and their supporters.
I am not saying that is a large number of the LGBTQ+ community, but the ones who support it must be called out.

[imayid2]

One's personal views/beliefs/opinions should never be forced on others.
The problem we run into is when something mandated by our laws interferes with one's views/beliefs/opinions.

Or when the laws that are mandated are a result of pressure from people trying to force tactic approval of their deprivations  on others.

[m65]

Except for when we are talking about children.
Then it's child abuse.

If a person's "views/beliefs/opinions" is that it is ok to abuse children, that person is vile and corrupt, and societies' "views/beliefs/opinions" should step in and condemn the abusers and their supporters.
I am not saying that is a large number of the LGBTQ+ community, but the ones who support it must be called out.

and what if in 50 years their propaganda machine was strong enough to make it a common belief that child abuse is also ok, then it becomes fine?