Grocery price discrepancies

[Lurker]

mixture of both.

I don't know exactly but I have heard stories. But no kosher grocery can survive (or wine store) without kayco, and they know that.

Your complaints are overly generalized. Kayco is one issue;  kosher stores are a completely different issue.

[Yehuda57]

we are being forced to shop their since we keep kosher. I do not feel like that's a reason to charge more.

Most of our shopping is not done in kosher stores outside of meat, bakery items, and other select items because we're not fans of the quality and price of their products. I live less than a minute from 2 kosher stores. When we need something immidiately, they present an unparalleled value. Who is forcing you to shop at Handler Yossel's instead of Trader Joe's?

[ExGingi]

we keep kosher so we  have to shop in a kosher store. Non Jewish stores have to be competitive since you would go elsewhere.

Jewish stores know we have to come there so they rip us off on the other items as well

There are plenty of items that are cheaper in Jewish stores. Take disposables for example.

[ya]

There are plenty of items that are cheaper in Jewish stores. Take disposables for example.

and besides disposables? Reason being its a very easy item to import so lots of competiton. No hashgacha needed etc non Jewish doesn't use it in the same way as us.

[ya]

Most of our shopping is not done in kosher stores outside of meat, bakery items, and other select items because we're not fans of the quality and price of their products. I live less than a minute from 2 kosher stores. When we need something immidiately, they present an unparalleled value. Who is forcing you to shop at Handler Yossel's instead of Trader Joe's?

I do agree with you. My wife doesn't always agree tho:)

All the non Jewish stores closed down were I live in Monsey since the property's were purchased by Jews.

[Yehuda57]

and besides disposables? Reason being its a very easy item to import so lots of competiton. No hashgacha needed etc non Jewish doesn't use it in the same way as us.

Ding ding ding

If the stores were "ripping us off", they would do that on disposables as well. But they're operating like any other business. They charge you a markup that is in line with the industry. If store A ripped you off on produce, store B would come in with cheaper produce and A would be toast. Because frum families use way more disposables than the average US family, the kosher stores get their merchandise for cheaper, and the price is passed on to consumers. Not that they're giving us charity, their markup still leaves the price below the chain stores.

[Sammy82]

@ya where do u live? Just wondering.
I believe this conversation started in Lakewood (although not sure if you were involved at that point on the othere thread). If so, just go out of town or 5towns and then go back home. You will never complain again.

[ya]

Ding ding ding

If the stores were "ripping us off", they would do that on disposables as well. But they're operating like any other business. They charge you a markup that is in line with the industry. If store A ripped you off on produce, store B would come in with cheaper produce and A would be toast. Because frum families use way more disposables than the average US family, the kosher stores get their merchandise for cheaper, and the price is passed on to consumers. Not that they're giving us charity, their markup still leaves the price below the chain stores.

store B on most items can not come in cheaper since they are buying from the same distributor/manufacturer. I guess they figure you are coming in for the meat and gefen items might as well charge crazy amounts on produce or other since you will purchase it anyway due to "convenience"

[ya]

@ya where do u live? Just wondering.
I believe this conversation started in Lakewood (although not sure if you were involved at that point on the othere thread). If so, just go out of town or 5towns and then go back home. You will never complain again.

Monsey. Go to Lakewood often.

I grow up in 5 towns. You think 5 towns is a free market?

"why didn't a cheaper store just open" L. O. L.

[Sammy82]

Monsey.

I grow up in 5 towns. You think 5 towns is a free market?

Growing up you liekly had Brachs. They were very decently priced. For the past ~10 years,  it's been strictly GG/KolSave, Seasons, and Frankels. BH Bingo is coming to town.
Head over to the 5T/FR thread for a full update and thread of grocery complaints.

[ya]

Growing up you liekly had Brachs. They were very decently priced. For the past ~10 years,  it's been strictly GG/KolSave, Seasons, and Frankels. BH Bingo is coming to town.
Head over to the 5T/FR thread for a full update and thread of grocery complaints.

yes Brachs was great.

[Yehuda57]

store B on most items can not come in cheaper since they are buying from the same distributor/manufacturer. I guess they figure you are coming in for the meat and gefen items might as well charge crazy amounts on produce or other since you will purchase it anyway due to "convenience"

You're all over the place. First the stores are ripping us off, then when that gets questioned, you come up with a monopoly theory. The latter is actually valid, IMHO. But you lose people when you complain about people ripping you off when they are doing no such thing.

[ya]

You're all over the place. First the stores are ripping us off, then when that gets questioned, you come up with a monopoly theory. The latter is actually valid, IMHO. But you lose people when you complain about people ripping you off when they are doing no such thing.

I am all over the place. But I think we are getting ripped off from a bunch of different places.

I don't think we have a free and open market. Not exactly sure on th details but something is wrong.

[Ver hut gazugt]

I am still trying to figure out which kosher items are over priced ?

[ya]

I am still trying to figure out which kosher items are over priced ?

kosher items? What do you consider over priced. Who decides the baseline price?

Also I don't know why fresh salmon is over 50% more in kosher stores

[Ver hut gazugt]

kosher items? What do you consider over priced. Who decides the baseline price?

Also I don't know why fresh salmon is over 50% more in kosher stores

trying to understand your claim. Your saying it’s over priced what product to you is over priced.

Dont know were you shop. I get family pack for 8.99 a pound. Maybe went up to 9.99

[ya]

trying to understand your claim. Your saying it’s over priced what product to you is over priced.

Dont know were you shop. I get family pack for 8.99 a pound. Maybe went up to 9.99

$8.99 for fresh salmon? Kosher stores in Monsey is $15+

Most items are more expensive then non Jewish stores for similar items

[Ver hut gazugt]

$8.99 for fresh salmon? Kosher stores in Monsey is $15+

Most items are more expensive then non Jewish stores for similar items

come to Bentzy’s in ch.
also this is not a kosher item per say, as there is No hashgacha or limited manufactures.

[ya]

come to Bentzy’s in ch.
also this is not a kosher item per say, as there is No hashgacha or limited manufactures.

so now I should travel to CH for fish?

[Ver hut gazugt]

so now I should travel to CH for fish?

and exgingy sukkah.