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Should @countvalentine and @imayid2 stop with there endless bickering

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Voting closed: October 17, 2022, 05:07:57 PM

Author Topic: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade  (Read 131915 times)

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1580 on: October 13, 2022, 01:19:21 AM »
If someone doesn't understand what "life beginning at conception" means, then they should not be discussing abortion.  ::)
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1581 on: October 13, 2022, 01:39:52 AM »
If someone doesn't understand what "life beginning at conception" means, then they should not be discussing abortion.  ::)
Does Kentucky law reflect “life begins at conception”?

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1582 on: October 13, 2022, 06:32:33 AM »
If someone doesn't understand can’t define what "life beginning at conception" means, then they should not be discussing abortion.  ::)

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1583 on: October 13, 2022, 08:50:28 AM »
An adult human female.
Someone watched "what is a woman" 

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1584 on: October 13, 2022, 11:32:37 AM »
Some believe "life begins at birth". This doesn't fit with the pretzel they are eating so they resort to what the definition of "is" is.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1585 on: October 13, 2022, 12:00:27 PM »
Some believe "life begins at birth".
Some people believe that unborn and born are unequal?
Lol. Try 99.999% of people.

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1586 on: October 13, 2022, 12:16:26 PM »
If one believes "life begins at birth" then that means "life does not begin at conception".

No matter how many pretzels you eat that fact does not change!!!
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1587 on: October 13, 2022, 12:20:57 PM »
If one believes "life begins at birth" then that means "life does not begin at conception".

No matter how many pretzels you eat that fact does not change!!!
It can also be a gradual path to "full lifehood"
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1588 on: October 13, 2022, 12:22:40 PM »
If one believes "life begins at birth" then that means "life does not begin at conception".

No matter how many pretzels you eat that fact does not change!!!
You have dug yourself an absurd “either all or nothing” hole.

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1589 on: October 13, 2022, 12:23:05 PM »
It can also be a gradual path to "full lifehood"
...and that has nothing to do with the fact I posted.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1590 on: October 13, 2022, 12:24:09 PM »
You have dug yourself an absurd “either all or nothing” hole.
Translation: you want to be a fish out of water and change the meaning.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1591 on: October 13, 2022, 12:24:16 PM »
...and that has nothing to do with the fact I posted.
which had nothing to do with the Kentucky story.

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1592 on: October 13, 2022, 12:25:30 PM »
which had nothing to do with the Kentucky story.
If you can't state when "life begins" please stay out of the conversation!!!  :P
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1593 on: October 13, 2022, 12:32:51 PM »
Translation: you want to be a fish out of water and change the meaning.
I have no skin in how your mind insists on defining “life”. So now that you’ve clarified in your special way that you insist on defining it as it’s fullest extent, of course it begins at birth. This is almost universally recognized ;)

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1594 on: October 13, 2022, 12:47:29 PM »
I have no skin in how your mind insists on defining “life”. So now that you’ve clarified in your special way that you insist on defining it as it’s fullest extent, of course it begins at birth. This is almost universally recognized ;)
Why don't you just give your own definition and then give an answer based on that.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1595 on: October 13, 2022, 02:10:05 PM »
Why don't you just give your own definition and then give an answer based on that.
Why is that important?
It doesn't have an absolute definition, does a cow live? It depends on how it's used which is why I in good faith responded
Hmm. If life means the same as a born person than it’s true. But it would be true in the third trimester too.
If they mean abortion is allowed it’s false. For the most part it’s prohibited.
If they mean that in the earliest part of pregnancy exemptions are easier to obtain, it hinges on halachik debate, with some very eminent Rabbis equating all stages.
Which elicited this asinine response
Did you quote the right post?

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1596 on: October 13, 2022, 02:12:02 PM »
Why don't you just give your own definition and then give an answer based on that.
Because he will be a fish out of water.

When I have a question about Judaism you and others have answered and sometimes directed me to a Jewish website. Those same websites say life does not begin at conception. That is a Christian belief and not a Jewish belief. That is one aspect of the suit the Jewish woman are bringing forward.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1597 on: October 13, 2022, 02:12:47 PM »
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I an truly intrigued. What does the Catholic faith say about fertilized eggs for the purpose of IVF? Can the extras be discarded? 

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1598 on: October 13, 2022, 02:13:43 PM »
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I an truly intrigued. What does the Catholic faith say about fertilized eggs for the purpose of IVF? Can the extras be discarded?
I never looked into that.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1599 on: October 13, 2022, 02:15:47 PM »
When I have a question about Judaism you and others have answered and sometimes directed me to a Jewish website. Those same websites say life does not begin at conception. That is a Christian belief and not a Jewish belief. That is one aspect of the suit the Jewish woman are bringing forward.
Lol and no doubt according to your self imposed definition concluded that Judaism allows abortion like the link disgustingly and disingenuously states.