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Should @countvalentine and @imayid2 stop with there endless bickering

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Voting closed: October 17, 2022, 05:07:57 PM

Author Topic: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade  (Read 124224 times)

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1780 on: October 16, 2022, 02:40:06 PM »
Just look at her profile.
Ty, I already went to the frog lab

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1781 on: October 16, 2022, 05:50:53 PM »
but you're skipping steps. Just answer the questions and play along.

No guarantees that you will get CV to see the light, but I think it simplifies the argument. When he asks why you gave a no to a question that sometimes has a yes, you'll be able to simply explain that the available answers were either yes or no and you thought that "no" was closer to the general answer because ....
Firstly if I was going that route I would say" yes". It is much closer.
Secondly, this is a nice tactic for someone asking in good faith. Otherwise it's a "gotcha" moment and any attempts at explanation would be shrilly labeled as digging out of a hole throwing my religion under the bus eating pretzels and being a fish.
Of course it happened anyway :)

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1782 on: October 27, 2022, 04:42:15 PM »
Of course it happened anyway :)
Facts don't care about feelings.  ;)
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1783 on: October 27, 2022, 04:44:22 PM »
Facts don't care about feelings.  ;)
Pretzels are too often confused with facts by people who have a hard time keeping track which day it is :P

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1784 on: October 27, 2022, 04:47:03 PM »
Pretzels are too often confused with facts by people who have a hard time keeping track which day it is :P
That is the great thing about being retired. It doesn't matter what day it is!!!
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1785 on: October 27, 2022, 10:06:52 PM »
That is the great thing about being retired. It doesn't matter what day it is!!!
It definitely matters that today is Thursday, not Friday  :P

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1786 on: October 27, 2022, 10:25:32 PM »
It definitely matters that today is Thursday, not Friday  :P
For you, not me!
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1787 on: October 27, 2022, 10:30:27 PM »
How do Catholics explain why the Old Testament differentiates between feticide and homicide? Isnít it exactly the same in their view? 

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1788 on: October 28, 2022, 01:10:55 PM »

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1789 on: October 28, 2022, 01:15:09 PM »
Moving goalposts?
Not at all. For a Jewish person wouldn't it be important to know if today is Thursday or Friday?
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1790 on: October 28, 2022, 01:18:04 PM »
How do Catholics explain why the Old Testament differentiates between feticide and homicide? Isnít it exactly the same in their view?
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1791 on: October 28, 2022, 01:24:42 PM »
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After the hole you dug yourself you expect me to follow?  :)
Catholics follow the Holy Bible. 
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1792 on: October 28, 2022, 01:26:43 PM »
Catholics follow the Holy Bible.
Doesnít that include the Old Testament?

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1793 on: October 28, 2022, 01:35:02 PM »
Doesnít that include the Old Testament?
As you would say that depends on your definition of the Old Testament.  :P
IIRC there are 73 books in the Bible. The number of books that makes up the Old Testament is different according to different religions.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1794 on: October 28, 2022, 01:42:51 PM »
As you would say that depends on your definition of the Old Testament.  :P
IIRC there are 73 books in the Bible. The number of books that makes up the Old Testament is different according to different religions.
Ok.
So back to my question. The Old Testament discusses feticide and proscribed a financial penalty. This being in sharp contrast to the death penalty for homicide. Do they explain why that is? My assumption is because in the feticide case itís unintentional, just want to confirm thatís how they understand it.

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1795 on: October 28, 2022, 01:51:18 PM »
Ok.
So back to my question. The Old Testament discusses feticide and proscribed a financial penalty. This being in sharp contrast to the death penalty for homicide. Do they explain why that is? My assumption is because in the feticide case itís unintentional, just want to confirm thatís how they understand it.
Where did "feticide" come from?
Let me make this clear. The Catholic Church considers abortion murder, FULL STOP!!! No exceptions and no pretzels!!!
How one religion interprets their scriptures is up to them.
A classic example would be the Messiah.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1796 on: October 28, 2022, 01:55:48 PM »
Where did "feticide" come from?
Let me make this clear. The Catholic Church considers abortion murder, FULL STOP!!! No exceptions and no pretzels!!!
How one religion interprets their scriptures is up to them.
A classic example would be the Messiah.
Did I not make my question clear?
I know what their position is. Iím asking how they interpret their scriptures. Specifically the verses that speak about a man hitting a woman and causing her to miscarry.

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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1797 on: October 28, 2022, 02:04:26 PM »
Iím asking how they interpret their scriptures. Specifically the verses that speak about a man hitting a woman and causing her to miscarry.
Catholics do not spend their lives studying the scripture. You are asking about Catholic theology. That is a discussion you should have with a Catholic theologian which I am not.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1798 on: October 28, 2022, 02:09:12 PM »
Catholics do not spend their lives studying the scripture. You are asking about Catholic theology. That is a discussion you should have with a Catholic theologian which I am not.
Ok so the answer to my question is you donít know.
Surely this is something thatís been discussed by those that do spend time studying scriptures. So if there is a specific reputable site that discusses this Iíd appreciate the resource.
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Re: Supreme Court Will Strike Down Roe v Wade
« Reply #1799 on: October 28, 2022, 02:28:04 PM »
Ok so the answer to my question is you donít know.
Is this question based on your interpretation of the Catholic Bible? If so, please provide me the passage and from what Bible?
How do Catholics explain why the Old Testament differentiates between feticide and homicide?
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