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https://hamodia.com/2022/05/04/jews-say-they-were-barred-from-lufthansa-flight-because-one-or-two-didnt-wear-masks/
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-main/frankfurt/flughafen-frankfurt-127-orthodoxe-juden-aufgehalten-18008734.html?GEPC=s9
https://www.businessinsider.com/jewish-men-barred-from-german-lufthansa-flight-allege-antisemitism-report-2022-5
https://news.yahoo.com/more-100-orthodox-jews-were-132625387.html
https://viewfromthewing.com/report-german-airline-refuses-to-fly-jews-after-various-passengers-refused-to-wear-masks/
https://onemileatatime.com/news/lufthansa-discriminates-against-jews/
https://liveandletsfly.com/lufthansa-jewish-discrimination/
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/05/09/german-airline-lufthansa-accused-of-anti-semitism-after-throwing-passengers-off-flight-because-they-looked-jewish/
https://www.fnp.de/frankfurt/lufthansa-maskenpflicht-flughafen-frankfurt-juedische-passagiere-gestoppt-zr-91529018.html
https://www.tag24.de/justiz/polizei/juedische-passagiere-am-frankfurter-flughafen-gestoppt-2445110
https://www.rebelnews.com/orthodox_jews_accuse_german_airline_lufthansa_of_antisemitic_discrimination_after_entire_group_barred_from_flight_over_mask_dispute
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/2084520/sky-high-hate-german-airline-lufthansa-bans-all-jews-after-some-break-rules-shocking-video.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/passengers-say-lufthansa-threw-all-visible-jews-off-nyc-budapest-flight
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lufthansa-flight-passengers-racism-against-jewish-travelers-mask-dispute/
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-german-carrier-bars-visible-jews-from-flight-after-some-refuse-to-wear-masks-1.10789791
https://nypost.com/2022/05/09/airline-kicks-over-100-nyc-orthodox-jews-off-flight-over-masks/
https://www.jta.org/2022/05/09/ny/passengers-say-lufthansa-threw-all-visible-jews-off-nyc-budapest-flight-because-some-werent-wearing-masks
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/05/a_lufthansa_flight_crew_bans_all_jews_from_boarding_one_of_its_flights.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2022/05/10/jewish-passengers-lufthansa-flight-alleged-discrimination
https://www.algemeiner.com/2022/05/10/facing-legal-action-for-alleged-discrimination-against-jewish-passengers-german-airline-lufthansa-issues-apology
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/11/world/europe/jewish-passengers-flight-ban-lufthansa.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lufthansa-anti-semitism-jews-blocked-flight-adl
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/lufthansa-apologises-after-barring-orthodox-jewish-travellers-from-flight
https://forward.com/fast-forward/501964/state-department-monitoring-lufthansa-expulsion-of-hasidic-travellers-in-line-with-its-committment-to-combat-global-antisemitism/
https://www.jpost.com/bds-threat/article-706474
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelgoldstein/2022/05/13/lufthansa-denies-boarding-to-more-than-100-jewish-passengers
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/us-envoy-decries-unbelievable-antisemitism-lufthansa-jews-flight-rcna28763


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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #100 on: May 08, 2022, 01:52:17 AM »
nuuuuuuuuuuuu??????????!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #101 on: May 08, 2022, 01:54:10 AM »
Can I place my ad in that report? :)

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #102 on: May 08, 2022, 01:54:21 AM »
Hard to believe that a group of black people where a large percentage weren't complying with the law or airline rules wouldn't receive the same treatment
FTFY.. For some better context....

Still hard to believe?

Question is what kind of accountability could there be. Ye it will be easy for LH to apologize and compensate, we should not go for that. We should demand that all the LH employees involved in this be fired! (not disciplined...)
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #103 on: May 08, 2022, 01:58:12 AM »
Question is what kind of accountability could there be. Ye it will be easy for LH to apologize and compensate, we should not go for that. We should demand that all the LH employees involved in this be fired! (not disciplined...)
Na a serious compensation would do much better.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #104 on: May 08, 2022, 07:42:11 AM »
Any contact with them ?

The tweet of LH acknowledging what happened was asinine, I’m not sure what purpose it served as it didn’t offer anything in their favor.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #105 on: May 08, 2022, 07:44:59 AM »
Are the people suing simply in it for compensation / to hurt LH? Or are they hoping to get LH to acknowledge what happened to the extent possible and make some commitments to work towards mitigating it in the future. To me that’s more valuable than any money, and to LH throwing some money at the problem isn’t going to change anything.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #106 on: May 08, 2022, 08:02:48 AM »
Are the people suing simply in it for compensation / to hurt LH? Or are they hoping to get LH to acknowledge what happened to the extent possible and make some commitments to work towards mitigating it in the future. To me that’s more valuable than any money, and to LH throwing some money at the problem isn’t going to change anything.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #107 on: May 08, 2022, 08:21:33 AM »
I got a grocery list

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #108 on: May 08, 2022, 08:43:46 AM »
Put me down for two slices
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #109 on: May 08, 2022, 09:16:05 AM »
I think I have it covered.
Just finished writing the story, need to edit and get some approvals, but should have it wrapped up tomorrow.
Maybe I'll post here for comment before publishing.

I think it's pretty damning for LH...
You can add that every Yid still has an obligation to obey the rules, no matter how wrong the airline is. This is besides the חילל השם.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #110 on: May 08, 2022, 09:16:36 AM »
You can add that every Yid still has an obligation to obey the rules, no matter how wrong the airline is. This is besides the חילל השם.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #111 on: May 08, 2022, 09:25:47 AM »
Dan, when are you planning to post? Perhaps DDF should get a first glimpse?  ;)

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #112 on: May 08, 2022, 09:27:49 AM »
Perhaps DDF should get a first glimpse?  ;)
Maybe I'll post here for comment before publishing.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #113 on: May 08, 2022, 09:59:16 AM »
Approximately what percent of the frum passengers were properly wearing masks throughout the flight and at the airport? And what percent of the non-frum passengers? Obviously LH was wrong to punish the entire group no matter what, but I'm just trying to get a sense of if it was 90% frum compliance or 90% non-compliance or somewhere in-between, and how much better the other passengers were. @Dan @US @Coinguy

I actually had the exact opposite experience on B6 last summer. I was on a flight that was about 1/3 frum, none of whom were wearing masks in the airport despite repeated requests to do so.

Most did put on masks during boarding, until a group of bochurim walked on the plane and announced, "We declare this to be a mask-free flight" and started handing out huge lollipops that everyone could lick throughout the flight. With my mazal, they were seated directly behind me.

To my surprise, the FA came and asked ME to come with them, when I was the one who had been wearing an N95 mask plus face shield the entire time. FA explained that she had called for police to come remove the bochurim, and since she saw that I looked like them but was clearly not part of their games, she wanted to make sure I wouldn't be rounded up together with them, and moved me to the front. So there clearly are some airlines and crew who are able and willing to realize that we're not all the same.

PS After enough phones came out recording and claiming that they'd all been wearing masks the whole time and would testify to that effect, FA backed down but had the pilot announce that if anyone so much as removed a mask at any point during the flight, they would be met by LE upon arrival, and that was the end of the lollipops.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #114 on: May 08, 2022, 10:19:21 AM »
Approximately what percent of the frum passengers were properly wearing masks throughout the flight and at the airport? And what percent of the non-frum passengers? Obviously LH was wrong to punish the entire group no matter what, but I'm just trying to get a sense of if it was 90% frum compliance or 90% non-compliance or somewhere in-between, and how much better the other passengers were. @Dan @US @Coinguy

I actually had the exact opposite experience on B6 last summer. I was on a flight that was about 1/3 frum, none of whom were wearing masks in the airport despite repeated requests to do so.

Most did put on masks during boarding, until a group of bochurim walked on the plane and announced, "We declare this to be a mask-free flight" and started handing out huge lollipops that everyone could lick throughout the flight. With my mazal, they were seated directly behind me.

To my surprise, the FA came and asked ME to come with them, when I was the one who had been wearing an N95 mask plus face shield the entire time. FA explained that she had called for police to come remove the bochurim, and since she saw that I looked like them but was clearly not part of their games, she wanted to make sure I wouldn't be rounded up together with them, and moved me to the front. So there clearly are some airlines and crew who are able and willing to realize that we're not all the same.

PS After enough phones came out recording and claiming that they'd all been wearing masks the whole time and would testify to that effect, FA backed down but had the pilot announce that if anyone so much as removed a mask at any point during the flight, they would be met by LE upon arrival, and that was the end of the lollipops.
what a huge chillul hashem just disgusting

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #115 on: May 08, 2022, 10:22:01 AM »
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Such stupid people out there. Even if you disagree, don't flout the rules like that. I don't get what people think these days. It's not like we need any reminders we're in galus, unfortunately.

Truly disgusting, regardless, but the fact that it is our bachurim makes it much worse.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #116 on: May 08, 2022, 10:27:40 AM »
don't flout the rules like that.
FTFY.

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