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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2022, 11:08:03 PM »
What did they end up doing? Were they allowed on a later flight?

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2022, 11:12:23 PM »
Yes its true. heard it from a passenger and TA who had clients on this flight
Sick! I hope there is footage.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2022, 11:20:44 PM »
In my city they went through the land registry and flagged "Jewish sounding names" for the "Jewish list" (that obviously wouldn't work in Germany...)
Which city?

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2022, 11:22:35 PM »
What did they end up doing? Were they allowed on a later flight?
Some took flights to different city's and traveled by car from there to Hungary

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2022, 11:28:03 PM »
Some took flights to different city's and traveled by car from there to Hungary
Not with LH I assume?

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2022, 11:31:28 PM »
OS to VIE

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2022, 11:33:00 PM »
Waiting for Dan's take on this
I think we all are.
My 0.02:
1. This is with no doubt antisemitism.
2. If there was anyone who didn’t comply with mask policies they caused an unbelievable chillul Hashem and harmed their fellow Jewish passengers. It doesn’t matter if it makes sense or not. If you purchased a ticket on an airline, follow their rules.
3. When you look Jewish, you’re not only representing yourself. As a friend told me a while ago: I’ll either wear a mask or not wear a yarmulke.
4. Commenters who are blaming the “chassidim” are just as bad as LH blaming the “Jews”

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2022, 02:45:08 AM »
Is this actually true? Source?
I was there.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2022, 02:47:28 AM »
What did they end up doing? Were they allowed on a later flight?
The later flight had 5 seats available, so didn’t help much.
Most of them traveled to Warsaw from there another flight to Hungary.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2022, 03:51:22 AM »
I traveled about a month ago with a group on LH (there were actually 2 groups, and many single yidden on that flight). I was sitting on the upper level in business myself and the others downstairs. After takeoff the purser comes over "all your people are not wearing masks and are using their phones which interfares with the navigation system". First of all, no one was using their phones, but he was able to see that 70 phones are connected to the FlyNet which is allowed as you're allowed to use PEDs with Wi-Fi and nowhere is he able to see that's not an airplane mode ( want to even pass me while I was listening to a message on my phone and it told me You're not allowed to talk and I showed him only listening to a message and my phone is an airplane mode). Either way, I went to check everyone was nicely wearing the masks and just driving me nuts.
Thank god they couldn't kick us off the next fight because we had our own charter

So yes, I experienced it first hand, and many fellow DDFs told me that week that they flew LH that week and no one made them crazy about masks

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2022, 03:52:55 AM »
What did they end up doing? Were they allowed on a later flight?
They got a 24 hour ban on LH. Same was with some yidden on the way to uman

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2022, 08:14:14 AM »
I traveled about a month ago with a group on LH (there were actually 2 groups, and many single yidden on that flight). I was sitting on the upper level in business myself and the others downstairs. After takeoff the purser comes over "all your people are not wearing masks and are using their phones which interfares with the navigation system". First of all, no one was using their phones, but he was able to see that 70 phones are connected to the FlyNet which is allowed as you're allowed to use PEDs with Wi-Fi and nowhere is he able to see that's not an airplane mode ( want to even pass me while I was listening to a message on my phone and it told me You're not allowed to talk and I showed him only listening to a message and my phone is an airplane mode). Either way, I went to check everyone was nicely wearing the masks and just driving me nuts.
Thank god they couldn't kick us off the next fight because we had our own charter

So yes, I experienced it first hand, and many fellow DDFs told me that week that they flew LH that week and no one made them crazy about masks
Comments have been made on the PA system on LY and UA flights too about “you people” regarding minyanim or masks.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2022, 08:22:20 AM »
Comments have been made on the PA system on LY and UA flights too about “you people” regarding minyanim or masks.

To clarify, when they told @chff "your people" it was actually his people, aka the group that he arranged.

Doesn't make the craziness any less egregious (interfering with navigation lmao) but this isn't the typical "you people" expression.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2022, 08:24:17 AM »
To clarify, when they told @chff "your people" it was actually his people, aka the group that he arranged.

Doesn't make the craziness any less egregious (interfering with navigation lmao) but this isn't the typical "you people" expression.
"your people" meant my group, AND the other group there that had nothing with me and stam other yidden on the flight
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« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2022, 10:42:23 AM »
@Dan, is there any way that you would be willing to blow up this story. It is really crazy. 1 or 2 non compliant  people and they separated every Jew on the plane to not allow them to connect to next flight. In other words, the next flight was only for non Jews.  I can prob connect you to someone that was there


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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2022, 10:45:08 AM »
They got a 24 hour ban on LH. Same was with some yidden on the way to uman
Not sure where you take this information, me with 5 other people flew with the next LH flight.

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2022, 10:48:26 AM »
Hard to believe that a group of Christians wearing green hats where a large percentage weren't complying with the law or airline rules wouldn't receive the same treatment
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2022, 10:53:43 AM »
Hard to believe that a group of Christians wearing green hats where a large percentage weren't complying with the law or airline rules wouldn't receive the same treatment

umm, dare should they even try

By Uman there were some jews that were making issues, crew reported which seats they were and those individuals got banned for a day, they know how to do it

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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2022, 11:03:11 AM »
Waiting for Dan's take on this
Doubt he'll have one without videos posted.
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Re: Chasiddim Stuck in FRA Airport
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2022, 11:23:46 AM »
Doubt he'll have one without videos posted.

I’ll settle for his DDF take
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