13 year old traveling alone in economy

[thaber]

So don´t give your opinion if he didn´t ask for it.

Please read up thread and then..

any apolgies/brachos coming?

[Choshive Yid]

Please read up thread and then..

I read the entire thread. You say you only gave your opinion because you were asked, but you were only asked because you asked to give your opinion. To judge someone because a different person asked you to doesn´t mean it´s right.

[yelped]

I read the entire thread. You say you only gave your opinion because you were asked, but you were only asked because you asked to give your opinion. To judge someone because a different person asked you to doesn´t mean it´s right.

He wasn't referring to the OP. Was referring to this idea in general.

[Choshive Yid]

He wasn't referring to the OP. Was referring to this idea in general.

I still feel that it causes the OP to feel bad, and that itś the wrong time to ´randomly´ share your thoughts (if you don´t know the full story) about the ´hypothetical´ situation. If it is all hypothetical anyway, why give your opinion?

[thaber]

I read the entire thread. You say you only gave your opinion because you were asked, but you were only asked because you asked to give your opinion. To judge someone because a different person asked you to doesn´t mean it´s right.

I didn't ask to give. I offered, and it was taken up on. We've already discussed judging and how that is absolutely impossible on a public forum. I apologize if anyone was offended, clearly not my intention.

General statement that may help you understand where I'm coming from: I joined DDF on day 1, 14 years ago, and I've been pretty active throughout. At that time it was a much smaller community of individuals that I found to be refreshing, honest engaging and frank. with an emphasis on travel and points and credit cards, and with some serious brains and talent. And a distinct lack of 'snowflake'ness. 
Parts of that chevra is long gone, (I'm talking to you @Freddie and @Marco Polo) and others like @henche and @TimT have dropped out to a large degree. (Last I checked @Dan and @aygart and @ExGingi are still here).  I miss the frank, open and sometimes life changing discussions that were had with individuals that I likely never would have met in my day to day life - a Ben Torah in Pittsburgh, a lawyer in Boston, a utility whiz / talmid chacham in Lakewood. Most of us didn't and don't know each other IRL, and therefore opinions are perforce general and not specific and definitely not judgmental, but a discussion could be had, and it came with the territory.
Those days seem to be behind us. I apologize for any offense to OP and all of OP's defenders.

[yelped]

Those days seem to be behind us.

Disagree.

You can still have a honest, refreshing discussion here.

Regarding the older members coming and going, everyone has different demands on their time in different stages of life and people will leave and come back hopefully at some point.

[Yehuda57]

I miss the frank, open and sometimes life changing discussions that were had with individuals that I likely never would have met in my day to day life - a Ben Torah in Pittsburgh, a lawyer in Boston, a utility whiz / talmid chacham in Lakewood. Most of us didn't and don't know each other IRL, and therefore opinions are perforce general and not specific and definitely not judgmental, but a discussion could be had, and it came with the territory.

Best Ofed for the great description of how we learn from each other here, though I disagree that the days are behind us. The characters and dynamics may change, but the opportunity to discuss and discover remains. "Ah mol is Amalek"

[S209]

I didn't ask to give. I offered, and it was taken up on. We've already discussed judging and how that is absolutely impossible on a public forum. I apologize if anyone was offended, clearly not my intention.

You offered your opinion and then I asked for it, precisely because I wanted to hear your/others’ thoughts on the topic. Perhaps I should have opened a new thread to discuss it so as to be more sensitive to OPs feelings but it was on topic and DDF is known for popcorn threads. You didn’t do anything wrong, the thread title and question begged for DDF style commentary, and there’s no need to apologize.

(Not to discount anyone’s opinion and newbies are always welcome but the one poster who engaged with you started posting about a month ago. It’s possible they haven’t been around DDF long enough to know how it goes)

[Choshive Yid]

I didn't ask to give. I offered, and it was taken up on. We've already discussed judging and how that is absolutely impossible on a public forum. I apologize if anyone was offended, clearly not my intention.

General statement that may help you understand where I'm coming from: I joined DDF on day 1, 14 years ago, and I've been pretty active throughout. At that time it was a much smaller community of individuals that I found to be refreshing, honest engaging and frank. with an emphasis on travel and points and credit cards, and with some serious brains and talent. And a distinct lack of 'snowflake'ness. 
Parts of that chevra is long gone, (I'm talking to you @Freddie and @Marco Polo) and others like @henche and @TimT have dropped out to a large degree. (Last I checked @Dan and @aygart and @ExGingi are still here).  I miss the frank, open and sometimes life changing discussions that were had with individuals that I likely never would have met in my day to day life - a Ben Torah in Pittsburgh, a lawyer in Boston, a utility whiz / talmid chacham in Lakewood. Most of us didn't and don't know each other IRL, and therefore opinions are perforce general and not specific and definitely not judgmental, but a discussion could be had, and it came with the territory.
Those days seem to be behind us. I apologize for any offense to OP and all of OP's defenders.

In that case, I apologize. I have far less experience here and I guess i don't really know how exactly things go. Sorry. I didn't get that feeling that when someone asks a technical question it's okay to post your opinions on what he's doing, but I now clearly see I was wrong, I stand corrected, and am certainly not trying to come and decide how this forum should be run.

[S209]

In that case, I apologize. I have far less axperience here and I guess i don't really know how exactly things go. Sorry

You offered your opinion and then I asked for it, precisely because I wanted to hear your/others’ thoughts on the topic. Perhaps I should have opened a new thread to discuss it so as to be more sensitive to OPs feelings but it was on topic and DDF is known for popcorn threads. You didn’t do anything wrong, the thread title and question begged for DDF style commentary, and there’s no need to apologize.

(Not to discount anyone’s opinion and newbies are always welcome but the one poster who engaged with you started posting about a month ago. It’s possible they haven’t been around DDF long enough to know how it goes)

You don’t really need to apologize either. You’ll pick up more as you go along.

Welcome to DDF!

[TimT]

@TimT have dropped out to a large degree.

Life’s curveballs. I do apologize

[jj1000]

Life’s curveballs. I do apologize

I'm not mikayim.

 

[yos9694]

I miss the frank, open and sometimes life changing discussions that were had with individuals that I likely never would have met in my day to day life - a Ben Torah in Pittsburgh, a lawyer in Boston, a utility whiz / talmid chacham in Lakewood. Most of us didn't and don't know each other IRL, and therefore opinions are perforce general and not specific and definitely not judgmental, but a discussion could be had, and it came with the territory.
Those days seem to be behind us.

I hear that. Even nostalgia isn't as good as it used to be