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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #181 on: May 19, 2022, 01:24:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1527333092897488896?cxt=HHwWgIDU_eLWlrIqAAAA
The mess is beyond stupid and irresponsible, but can't people see that dealing with idiots like this is partially what causes the police to act like chayos?

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #182 on: May 19, 2022, 01:35:55 PM »

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #183 on: May 19, 2022, 03:26:40 PM »
The mess is beyond stupid and irresponsible, but can't people see that dealing with idiots like this is partially what causes the police to act like chayos?
Nah it's always easier to just blame the police.

Don't you remember how last year after the tragedy everyone was blaming the police for blocking the exits causing the crush until the videos that clearly showed otherwise

They're easy targets

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #184 on: May 19, 2022, 03:28:34 PM »
Nah it's always easier to just blame the police.

Don't you remember how last year after the tragedy everyone was blaming the police for blocking the exits causing the crush until the videos that clearly showed otherwise

They're easy targets
when in doubt blame authority

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #185 on: May 19, 2022, 03:31:35 PM »
I am so depressed...

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #187 on: May 19, 2022, 03:40:47 PM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #188 on: May 19, 2022, 03:49:13 PM »

Seems like a very far away dream...

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #189 on: May 19, 2022, 05:04:31 PM »
Waiting for somebody to make the case that disrupting the yahrzeit gathering was יהרג ועל יעבור...
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #190 on: May 19, 2022, 05:10:29 PM »
my personal getting to meron tr:
over the past few days i came to the realization that even if i technically could manage to get a seat on a bus, that would leave me totally in their hands, and at any small whim, i could be not allowed to get to meron. if the bus i would be on would not be allowed to continue further at some random point in the north, i could be left w/o any way of getting to meron.
being that it was important to me not to lose out on it, i decided to make the trip in my own car, despite the risks.
from my understanding on how these things work in israel, and from my experiences in the past 2 years in getting to meron on lag baomer despite it being off limits, i decided that my chances of getting there would be better this way.
@2:20 am i left from the modiin area and drove up north. we went thru the amuka forest to get into the secured zone. at aprox 4:30 we successfully got into the zone (886 road area) and spent the next hour avoiding police patrols and searching for a way to cross over into the ein zeitim forest area in order to be able to get to meron junction.
we made quite a few unsuccessful attempts, which included moving cement barriers, trying to drive thru ditches etc., and twice were almost nabbed by the patrols. every time we were revealed, we had to retreat back towards the amuka forest to hide for a few minutes.
eventually at aprox 6am we managed to move aside a cement barrier blocking entrance into the forest of ein zeitim, enough to be able to squeeze thru.
we weaved our way around the forest paths for about 15 minutes until we managed to reconnect to road 89 about 2 minutes away from meron junction. we then nonchalantly drove the 2 minutes till meron junction, parked on the side of the road, and walked up into har meron at 6:25. at no point were we asked to show tickets.
from start to finish 4 hours and 5 minutes. considering what im hearing from other ppls experiences, i believe thats on the short side.

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #191 on: May 19, 2022, 05:11:32 PM »
Waiting for somebody to make the case that disrupting the yahrzeit gathering was יהרג ועל יעבור...
working on it  :P

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #192 on: May 19, 2022, 05:12:00 PM »
The mess is beyond stupid and irresponsible, but can't people see that dealing with idiots like this is partially what causes the police to act like chayos?
or maybe dealing with police that are chayos causes ppl to start acting like idiots

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #193 on: May 19, 2022, 05:13:53 PM »
my personal getting to meron tr:
over the past few days i came to the realization that even if i technically could manage to get a seat on a bus, that would leave me totally in their hands, and at any small whim, i could be not allowed to get to meron. if the bus i would be on would not be allowed to continue further at some random point in the north, i could be left w/o any way of getting to meron.
being that it was important to me not to lose out on it, i decided to make the trip in my own car, despite the risks.
from my understanding on how these things work in israel, and from my experiences in the past 2 years in getting to meron on lag baomer despite it being off limits, i decided that my chances of getting there would be better this way.
@2:20 am i left from the modiin area and drove up north. we went thru the amuka forest to get into the secured zone. at aprox 4:30 we successfully got into the zone (886 road area) and spent the next hour avoiding police patrols and searching for a way to cross over into the ein zeitim forest area in order to be able to get to meron junction.
we made quite a few unsuccessful attempts, which included moving cement barriers, trying to drive thru ditches etc., and twice were almost nabbed by the patrols. every time we were revealed, we had to retreat back towards the amuka forest to hide for a few minutes.
eventually at aprox 6am we managed to move aside a cement barrier blocking entrance into the forest of ein zeitim, enough to be able to squeeze thru.
we weaved our way around the forest paths for about 15 minutes until we managed to reconnect to road 89 about 2 minutes away from meron junction. we then nonchalantly drove the 2 minutes till meron junction, parked on the side of the road, and walked up into har meron at 6:25. at no point were we asked to show tickets.
from start to finish 4 hours and 5 minutes. considering what im hearing from other ppls experiences, i believe thats on the short side.
Wow, sounds intense! Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #194 on: May 19, 2022, 05:21:51 PM »
I don’t understand why special accommodations were made for people coming to do Upshern.

Let’s see what kind of lessons are learned from this year’s mess, I’m not too hopeful.
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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #195 on: May 19, 2022, 05:41:14 PM »



Let’s see what kind of lessons are learned from this year’s mess, I’m not too hopeful.

Most likely the same thing as was learned from last year. That my preferred group needs to be on charge.
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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #196 on: May 19, 2022, 06:17:29 PM »

Most likely the same thing as was learned from last year. That my preferred group needs to be on charge.
Last year was lack of authority - a private org. 'ohel harashbi' was supposedly doing crowed control and failed.
This year we learned that the police are too unfriendly to say the least and don't understand or didn't prepare for our needs.

I think we could learn from R' Bidermans hatlakah in B"SH this year where the police approved it and private org. controlled it relatively well.

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #197 on: May 19, 2022, 06:43:55 PM »
my personal getting to meron tr:
over the past few days i came to the realization that even if i technically could manage to get a seat on a bus, that would leave me totally in their hands, and at any small whim, i could be not allowed to get to meron. if the bus i would be on would not be allowed to continue further at some random point in the north, i could be left w/o any way of getting to meron.
being that it was important to me not to lose out on it, i decided to make the trip in my own car, despite the risks.
from my understanding on how these things work in israel, and from my experiences in the past 2 years in getting to meron on lag baomer despite it being off limits, i decided that my chances of getting there would be better this way.
@2:20 am i left from the modiin area and drove up north. we went thru the amuka forest to get into the secured zone. at aprox 4:30 we successfully got into the zone (886 road area) and spent the next hour avoiding police patrols and searching for a way to cross over into the ein zeitim forest area in order to be able to get to meron junction.
we made quite a few unsuccessful attempts, which included moving cement barriers, trying to drive thru ditches etc., and twice were almost nabbed by the patrols. every time we were revealed, we had to retreat back towards the amuka forest to hide for a few minutes.
eventually at aprox 6am we managed to move aside a cement barrier blocking entrance into the forest of ein zeitim, enough to be able to squeeze thru.
we weaved our way around the forest paths for about 15 minutes until we managed to reconnect to road 89 about 2 minutes away from meron junction. we then nonchalantly drove the 2 minutes till meron junction, parked on the side of the road, and walked up into har meron at 6:25. at no point were we asked to show tickets.
from start to finish 4 hours and 5 minutes. considering what im hearing from other ppls experiences, i believe thats on the short side.

What kind of vehicle?
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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #198 on: May 19, 2022, 07:00:04 PM »
What kind of vehicle?
volkswagon caddy
not a very high car, but we pushed it a lil hard for reb shimon

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Re: Lag Baomer in Meron 2022
« Reply #199 on: May 19, 2022, 07:03:25 PM »
volkswagon caddy
not a very high car, but we pushed it a lil hard for reb shimon
Probably a rental.. "If you thieves gonna claim my cc insurance anyway, why not move that concrete barrier with it" :)