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« on: May 18, 2022, 07:22:37 PM »
Hopefully we won’t need a new board  :-\

Is it spreading fast enough that we can rule out purely gay infections?

Where does one get smallpox vax in NYC?
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2022, 07:32:37 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2022, 07:50:11 PM »
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The symptoms of monkeypox are similar to but milder than smallpox. Infected people develop flu-like symptoms
I've seen enough; did my research. It's just the flu. What are you worried about

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2022, 08:14:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/mougk/status/1527055553876348928

I've seen enough; did my research. It's just the flu. What are you worried about
1-10% mortality rate.
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2022, 08:37:36 PM »
Dunno what this is, but if ch"v a serious virus were to show up no one will cooperate

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2022, 10:52:56 PM »
ch"v a serious virus were to show up no one will cooperate

That already happened
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2022, 05:50:46 AM »
Where does one get smallpox vax in NYC?
I'm pretty sure nowhere. Nobody's gotten smallpox since the 70s.  Why would a vaccine for it be available at the drop of a hat?
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2022, 09:29:52 AM »
I'm pretty sure nowhere. Nobody's gotten smallpox since the 70s.  Why would a vaccine for it be available at the drop of a hat?
CDC for one says they have a stockpile large enough to vaccinate 'anybody who needs it'
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2022, 09:38:13 AM »
CDC for one says they have a stockpile large enough to vaccinate 'anybody who needs it'
Stockpile does not mean at your local doctor's office.  Is there an estimate of how long it would take to get it to "anybody who needs it"?
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2022, 01:07:44 PM »
Anybody understand how it's jumping borders so quickly before spreading locally? Even if you assume 1% of people travel on a given day (real number is probably 0.001%), you'd expect 100 local cases for every international one, which would be a few thousand by now.

Only theories I can think of are a globe trotting index case (flight attendant? Infected plane?), or media attention flagging unconnected or misdiagnosed outbreaks that always happen sporadically in the different locales. Any other ideas?


Stockpile does not mean at your local doctor's office.  Is there an estimate of how long it would take to get it to "anybody who needs it"?
Right. I thought it might be available year round to travellers or etc but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2022, 09:31:11 PM »

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2022, 10:03:22 PM »
Deja vu

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2022, 10:06:57 PM »
Anybody understand how it's jumping borders so quickly before spreading locally? Even if you assume 1% of people travel on a given day (real number is probably 0.001%), you'd expect 100 local cases for every international one, which would be a few thousand by now.

Only theories I can think of are a globe trotting index case (flight attendant? Infected plane?), or media attention flagging unconnected or misdiagnosed outbreaks that always happen sporadically in the different locales. Any other ideas?

Right. I thought it might be available year round to travellers or etc but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Another possible explanation is coordinated deliberate infections
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2022, 10:10:46 PM »
Another possible explanation is coordinated deliberate infections
As in Nation-State attackers?

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2022, 10:14:43 PM »
As in Nation-State attackers?
They would be the obvious suspects because we know they have the power. I can't think of any remotely plausible suspect though, unless the attacker was confident it would be contained and intended it as a threat
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2022, 11:47:08 PM »
They would be the obvious suspects because we know they have the power. I can't think of any remotely plausible suspect though, unless the attacker was confident it would be contained and intended it as a threat
Or the attacker benefits from world havoc such as China, Iran, Russia or NK. Basically the usual players.

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2022, 11:48:24 PM »
Or the attacker benefits from world havoc such as China, Iran, Russia or NK. Basically the usual players.
I don't believe that narrative. They get hit by it worse than we do
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2022, 12:00:37 AM »
Can it be that most infections are asymptomatic?

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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2022, 12:05:44 AM »
Can it be that most infections are asymptomatic?
I think so and they can definitely be pre-symptomatic for a long incubation period, but it still doesn't answer the question. How is it that 1 guy in NY & 1 guy in Boston present symptoms, when the likelihood of a close contact of somebody in NYC being from Boston is probably 1/100,000. You'd expect 100,000 to present symptoms in NY before somebody in Boston...

It could be a fluke once, but there's a one off in Sweden and a few other places.

I think it's a really big question.
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Re: MonkeyPox
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2022, 01:07:44 AM »
https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1527472115003400192

The distrubtion of cases across continents makes no sense
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