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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #100 on: August 03, 2022, 10:26:15 PM »
No because there is no chance they would define it as I believe.

The gedolim never advocated for the rules to be what they believe.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #101 on: August 03, 2022, 10:38:45 PM »
You have the religious angle to consider.
If one believes that SCOTUS is going by the constitution, then we should all support (not sure if support is the right word) their decisions.

It is like a jury verdict that you might not agree with. You don't go around saying they were wrong.
If they would start defining “life” which is a complex moral question to which the constitution gives no guidance for, I’d have difficulty believing “SCOTUS is going by the constitution”.
Similar to what ROE did when it affirmed the right to abortion.
But in one sense I can agree, even if SCOTUS is “going by the constitution”, this doesn’t mean I’ll be thrilled by every decision even if I agree with it. It would merely mean I disagree with the constitution and feel something is there which shouldn’t be, or isn’t there that should be.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #102 on: August 03, 2022, 10:40:02 PM »
The gedolim never advocated for the rules to be what they believe.
Right. And? Who’s advocating here?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2022, 11:10:58 AM »

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2022, 11:14:50 AM »
What age? Some people are more lucid at 100 than others at 60. A cognitive test may be a better qualification.
I am not against that either but too much funny business will happen. Straightforward with an age limit. We already have an age limit at the lower end.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #108 on: August 05, 2022, 11:50:13 AM »
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #109 on: August 05, 2022, 12:34:00 PM »
The age limit makes sense, but it is ridiculous for it to be brought up mainly as a tactic to keep Trump out.
Did you miss something in the article?
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #110 on: August 05, 2022, 12:43:38 PM »
Did you miss something in the article?
very possible

ETA: These are the first three paragraphs of the Wapo column. Only after this does it go into whether it is a good idea in general.


Americans are not excited about the prospect of a 2024 presidential election rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. A CNN poll in late July found that three-quarters of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters wish the party would nominate someone other than Biden, while 55 percent of Republicans and Republican leaners” do not want Trump as their standard-bearer. A New York Times/Siena survey produced similar findings earlier that month.Yet Trump-Biden II remains a likely scenario — possibly the likeliest.


 If only the Constitution had the following proviso: “No person who has attained the age of 75 years shall be eligible for election to the Office of President.” That would bar second-term bids by both Biden, 79, and Trump, 76, forcing the country to pass the torch to a new generation, or at least someone born after the 1940s.

Certainly such an amendment would be the most direct route to eliminating the danger of another Trump presidency, far simpler and more certain than trying to disqualify him via the House Jan. 6 committee’s revelations or an indictment. Precluding another four years of Biden would be a small price to pay for a never-Trump guarantee. Who knows? For that worthy objective, Biden himself might agree to sacrifice a shot at reelection.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #111 on: August 05, 2022, 12:54:00 PM »
very possible
I didn't read the whole article as usual.  :)
It seems it wasn't just about Trump but also Biden which was probably just an oversite on your part.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #112 on: August 05, 2022, 12:57:23 PM »
I didn't read the whole article as usual.  :)
It seems it wasn't just about Trump but also Biden which was probably just an oversite on your part.

I never wrote "just"
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #113 on: August 05, 2022, 12:58:08 PM »
The age limit makes sense, but it is ridiculous for it to be brought up mainly as a tactic to keep Trump out.

As the saying goes, you can't fix a leaky roof while it is raining.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #114 on: August 05, 2022, 01:01:28 PM »
I never wrote "just"
No, you "just" left Biden out.  :)
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #115 on: August 05, 2022, 03:01:36 PM »
Make sense to have an age limit? I am all for it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/presidential-age-limit-amendment-needed-to-keep-biden-trump-from-running-for-office-washington-post-column/ar-AA10lnkg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=fe73d1d64bc644f8a7634b24a91149f6

Also would be for an age-limit, not sure which age I would like the cutoff.

But regardless it says a lot about our democratic process that a law like this would even be needed.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #116 on: August 05, 2022, 03:42:08 PM »
No, you "just" left Biden out.  :)
Because his focus was Trump
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