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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #240 on: August 23, 2022, 09:18:48 PM »
So sodomy laws are to be viewed as being equivalent to killing blacks?
Where did you get that from. My point was in 1776 they made many mistakes.

Still the guy is a nutcase. He refuses to address or defend the comments in the current election.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #241 on: August 23, 2022, 09:21:25 PM »
He refuses to address or defend the comments in the current election.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/gop-candidate-stone-gay-people-msna347586
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However, TheMooreDaily.com reports it was able to speak with Scott Esk and asked him to clarify those comments. An audio recording of that interview is posted online. When asked specifically about whether he thinks members of the LGBT community should be stoned to death, the voice identified as Esk says:

What I will tell you right now is that was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God. And in that time, it was totally just -- it came directly from God. I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have very big moral misgivings about those kinds of sins, and I think that those kinds of sins will not do our country any good and certainly doesn’t do anything to preserve the family.

When pressed again by the interviewer if he would approve of such a sentence, were such a law to be somehow passed, the man identified as Esk would only respond that it was a “moot point.”

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #242 on: August 23, 2022, 09:38:22 PM »
Still the guy is a nutcase.
Apparently believing the Bible earns that title?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #243 on: August 23, 2022, 09:43:53 PM »
Apparently believing the Bible earns that title?
I could hear how interpreting the Bible literally could earn the title of nutcase in many cultures.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #244 on: August 23, 2022, 09:45:27 PM »
Apparently believing the Bible earns that title?
No, ignoring the teachings of your religion for your personal agenda does!



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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #245 on: August 23, 2022, 09:46:34 PM »
I could hear how interpreting the Bible literally could earn the title of nutcase in many cultures.
The Bible might even say to commit genocide.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #246 on: August 23, 2022, 09:46:59 PM »
I could hear how interpreting the Bible literally could earn the title of nutcase in many cultures.
Of course. The religious hating left considers Biblical values completely nuts.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #247 on: August 23, 2022, 09:51:05 PM »
Of course. The religious hating left considers Biblical values completely nuts.
You have them confused with the hypocritical right like guy we are taking about that visit's houses of prostitution.
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #248 on: August 23, 2022, 09:55:24 PM »
You have them confused with the hypocritical right like guy we are taking about that visit's houses of prostitution.
Changing some goalposts are we? :P

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #249 on: August 23, 2022, 10:16:02 PM »
No, ignoring the teachings of your religion for your personal agenda does!
Fair point perhaps, but hard sell to people who believe that he's 100% right even if his religion doesn't think so (if it doesn't).

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #250 on: August 23, 2022, 10:26:43 PM »
Do I have stupid written on my forehead? Not touching that one.  :)

I tried to get out and get sucked right back in.  >:(

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #251 on: August 23, 2022, 10:41:02 PM »
No, ignoring the teachings of your religion
I'm no expert on Christianity but might this not be so simple?
https://evangelicalbible.com/apologetics/homosexuality-the-christian-perspective/
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Which commandments remain valid for the Church today and which are obsolete? Attempts have been made to distinguish “ritual laws” from “moral laws” in the Old Testament. Ritual laws (dietary, circumcision, and a number of “outward” laws) were those laws which served the purpose to distinguish Israel from her pagan neighbors in appearance and form.  These were laws that were specific to Israel and not to the nations.  Moral laws-such as sexual sins were said to be timeless (and applied to Israel and the nations) and therefore applied to the new covenant as well. There is substantial weight in these distinctions”

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #254 on: August 24, 2022, 08:05:01 PM »
I know @imayid2 loves when the voters speak,
I “love” when voters have the ability to choose morality without being cancelled by liberal  courts. That doesn’t mean I agree with what they choose. Obviously.
 I have no clue what other factors were involved in this race, but believing in the truth of the Bible and the moral values it demands, isn’t grounds for being labeled a nutcase. In fact, if the voters claim to believe the Bible, but voted him out because of what he said, I’d label them a whole bunch of Bible denying nutcases.

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #255 on: August 24, 2022, 08:08:01 PM »
Someone is projecting their morals values onto others again.  :)
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #256 on: August 24, 2022, 08:09:38 PM »
Someone is projecting their morals values onto others again.  :)
You on the candidate, is that right?

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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #257 on: August 24, 2022, 08:18:19 PM »
You on the candidate, is that right?
I am not projecting any of morals on him. What I am pointing out is he is viewed as a nutcase by Christians.

Do you have a mirror?  If so, that will answer this question for you.  :P
Someone is projecting their morals values onto others again.  :)
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #258 on: August 24, 2022, 08:40:52 PM »
I am not projecting any of morals on him. What I am pointing out is he is viewed as a nutcase by Christians.
Meaning personally you don’t think he’s a nutcase for this specific belief, but you think other religious Christians feel he is. Because you accept that somehow even though they believe the Bible they think it’s nuts that at points in history homosexuals were to death.
And that’s clearly evident because he lost the election, so he must be considered nuts, how else can he lose?
But to think it’s nuts to believe the Bible and still think something described within is a moral travesty - tut tut, that’s projecting my moral beliefs on others…
Do I have this straight?
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Re: Midterm Elections
« Reply #259 on: August 24, 2022, 08:49:16 PM »
What I am pointing out is he is viewed as a nutcase by Christians.

https://evangelicalbible.com/apologetics/homosexuality-the-christian-perspective/

Is this site incorrect that "moral laws" are not abrogated as per some christians (based on the site title I'd guess evangelicals)?

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In fact, if the voters claim to believe the Bible, but voted him out because of what he said, I’d label them a whole bunch of Bible denying nutcases.

So you would call a group of voters that votes against a candidate because of their sincere understanding of biblical values are a bunch of bible denying nutcases? Would that then make you a
religious hating leftist
?


It's very possible I missed a lot of background in how you understand "Biblical Values" - if so please point me to the relevant posts.