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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2022, 05:44:47 PM »
Customers not enrolled in their utility providerís Energy Affordability Program can enroll until December 31, 2022 to receive this benefit.
That person is enrolled, and is still not getting the credit. They are sending him in circles.

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2022, 06:50:12 PM »
That person is enrolled, and is still not getting the credit. They are sending him in circles.
Was their bill for August generated already?

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2022, 08:06:31 PM »
Credits didn't post yet.
On my last bill, there was a small notice that it will be coming next bill

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2022, 01:19:38 PM »
I doubt it. The funds were part of an appropriation that has to be used for covid relief. It's more complicated to justify funds as "covid relief" now that the HHS public health declaration is hanging on by a thread.

Seeing the following story, along with the headlines about Student Debt cancellation (where can I source some?  ;) ) makes me think that I might have pulled the trigger too early to pay off the outstanding balances after the credits posted (never mind that there's one account on which there wasn't even a past due balance to begin with).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-23/can-t-pay-utility-bills-20-million-us-homes-behind-on-payments-facing-shutoffs
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2022, 08:25:14 PM »
Seeing the following story, along with the headlines about Student Debt cancellation (where can I source some?  ;) ) makes me think that I might have pulled the trigger too early to pay off the outstanding balances after the credits posted (never mind that there's one account on which there wasn't even a past due balance to begin with).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-23/can-t-pay-utility-bills-20-million-us-homes-behind-on-payments-facing-shutoffs
You are 100 % right...........
Waiting they should start forgiveness on EIDL loans :o

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2022, 08:49:36 PM »
You are 100 % right...........
Waiting they should start forgiveness on EIDL loans :o

They better do it before the first payments are due.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2022, 09:43:05 PM »
You are 100 % right...........
Waiting they should start forgiveness on EIDL loans :o

If they do itíll be skewed to the only demographics Ds care about.

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2022, 09:55:35 AM »
Reminder for those that qualify and did not yet enroll in EAP: enrollment in utility provider's EAP required by Dec 31 for those that want forgiveness for utility arrears from prior to May 1, 2022.

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2022, 10:41:32 AM »
Reminder for those that qualify and did not yet enroll in EAP: enrollment in utility provider's EAP required by Dec 31 for those that want forgiveness for utility arrears from prior to May 1, 2022.

Thank you CGR!

Is this the same as the utility money that I got from ERAP? What about arrears since 5/1/22?

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2022, 03:10:04 PM »
Thank you CGR!

Is this the same as the utility money that I got from ERAP? What about arrears since 5/1/22?
Short answer is no, it's different than ERAP (long answer is that ERAP asked some ppl to apply to this first, so that they only shoulder anything not covered by this program, so there is overlap).
So far there's no program for arrears incurred after 5/1/22.

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2022, 04:56:11 PM »
so only for arrears from before 5/1 that are still outstanding
(in which case you probably got shut off already?)

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2022, 08:12:46 PM »
so only for arrears from before 5/1 that are still outstanding
(in which case you probably got shut off already?)
They definitely didn't shut off everyone with old outstanding balances. Don't think they are doing shut off's. Any DP on this?

(Except the Scammers who are recently working overtime on shut off threats :o)

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2023, 10:42:58 PM »
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-672-million-electric-and-gas-utility-bill-relief-new-yorkers

This is also only through May 1 2022. Wasnít everything already forgiven through then ?

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2023, 10:45:43 PM »
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-672-million-electric-and-gas-utility-bill-relief-new-yorkers

This is also only through May 1 2022. Wasnít everything already forgiven through then ?
That was for low-income households only. This is for non-low-income and small businesses.
Hope to provide in-depth information tomorrow.

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2023, 11:00:18 PM »
That was for low-income households only. This is for non-low-income and small businesses.
Hope to provide in-depth information tomorrow.
Are there still that many people that havenít paid their bills ?

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2023, 02:44:13 AM »
Are there still that many people that havenít paid their bills ?
Sure. Why should someone pay his bill now?

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2023, 08:00:09 AM »
Sure. Why should someone pay his bill now?
These programs are only through May 1st 2022.
 Iím wondering if Iím the only idiot still making monthly payments.

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2023, 08:57:48 AM »
These programs are only through May 1st 2022.
 Iím wondering if Iím the only idiot still making monthly payments.
But meanwhile I didn't hear from any actual disconnections and assuming that there will be more progarams.
Anyone knows of actual disconnections in the city since Covid?

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2023, 03:05:34 PM »
But meanwhile I didn't hear from any actual disconnections and assuming that there will be more progarams.
Anyone knows of actual disconnections in the city since Covid?
All scheduled residential service terminations will be suspended until March 31, 2023 or until the credits have been applied, whichever comes later.

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Re: NY Energy Affordability Program Supplement
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2023, 03:06:07 PM »
FYI:
The program will be financed by a 0.5% surcharge to customer utility bills, which will last for a period of one to ten years, depending on the service provider and location. Per the New York State Public Service Commission this will be cheaper than allowing customers to default on their bills, as that would cause a massive debt write-off for the utility companies, which would then be recuperated through even higher bill surcharges.