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Re: Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2012, 10:18:26 AM »
Wow, so you think imaginary people being mechalel shabbos is a big problem on DDF, but advising how to steal is not?



Was sort of thinking the same thing (didn't want to say it).  But Judiasm is all about making choices. Everyone makes their own (as we see here.)
That's what its all about.
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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2012, 10:49:17 AM »
Forwarded the link to my father, who is the president of the yeshiva high school I went to. They'll either use it for an upcoming auction or the brand new Rabbeim's lounge they made.

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2012, 03:43:30 PM »
Forwarded the link to my father, who is the president of the yeshiva high school I went to. They'll either use it for an upcoming auction or the brand new Rabbeim's lounge they made.
wow maybe ill go teach their BRAND NEW RABBEIMS LOUNGE :)

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2012, 03:49:05 PM »
wow maybe ill go teach their BRAND NEW RABBEIMS LOUNGE :)

I probably just had the phrase stuck in my head from my father. No need to make a big deal about it.

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2012, 05:57:54 PM »
Wow, so you think imaginary people being mechalel shabbos is a big problem on DDF, but advising how to steal is not?

why is the fact that you teach people how to take advantage of a "price mistake" any different than this?

its the same gezaila (if you want to consider it that).

if GMCR wants to give items away without double checking the info, thats their problem. No different than what you teach us to do in other scenarios!

I will not be responding. if anybody has any OTHER questions about what i did. feel free to ask, ill answer.

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2012, 06:00:10 PM »
why is the fact that you teach people how to take advantage of a "price mistake" any different than this?

its the same gezaila (if you want to consider it that).

if GMCR wants to give items away without double checking the info, thats their problem. No different than what you teach us to do in other scenarios!

I will not be responding. if anybody has any OTHER questions about what i did. feel free to ask, ill answer.

wow pretty interesting comparison. so you're equating a mistake on their part to lying to them?
« Last Edit: January 17, 2012, 06:19:52 PM by bubbles »

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2012, 06:24:44 PM »
wow pretty interesting comparison. so your equating a mistake on their part to lying to them?
+1.

JollyJ, If you walk into a store and they have an item for a very low price and you paid for it at the cash register would you consider that theft?
Because what you just did was compare that to outright lying about being a school and holding a raffle, and you justify it that they don't "verify" that you are actually a school holding a raffle.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 06:30:19 PM »
+1.

JollyJ, If you walk into a store and they have an item for a very low price and you paid for it at the cash register would you consider that theft?
Because what you just did was compare that to outright lying about being a school and holding a raffle, and you justify it that they don't "verify" that you are actually a school holding a raffle.

I guess this means I don't have to pay for food anymore  :)
If they don't want to make sure I pay it's obviously not that important to them

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2012, 06:34:43 PM »
@ JOLLYJ, even if you somehow justify lying, did it occur to you that some legitimate institutions would not get because of that?

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2012, 06:47:15 PM »
I applied then too, and they said it will ship in march!!

The Email they sent me was a receipt for my order ($0.00) and said that the estimated shipping date is Jan 16th. It could be that It's because my event date is at the end of January. I have ordered this for my yeshiva, and I too feel that ordering it for personal use may very well constitute ganaivah.  I want to use it for the boys in yeshiva instead of a raffle, and made that very clear in a note on the form. Listen its as the Rambam writes; a person who has true bitachon knows every dime he makes is coming from hashem. With this in mind how can one contemplate being dishonest in monetary matters, as that is not gods will.

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2012, 07:06:52 PM »
The Email they sent me was a receipt for my order ($0.00) and said that the estimated shipping date is Jan 16th. It could be that It's because my event date is at the end of January. I have ordered this for my yeshiva, and I too feel that ordering it for personal use may very well constitute ganaivah.  I want to use it for the boys in yeshiva instead of a raffle, and made that very clear in a note on the form. Listen its as the Rambam writes; a person who has true bitachon knows every dime he makes is coming from hashem. With this in mind how can one contemplate being dishonest in monetary matters, as that is not gods will.
I didn't order it for myself, it is for my local cheder auction!

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2012, 07:22:39 PM »
I didn't order it for myself, it is for my local cheder auction!

So sorry, didn't mean to question you, just after replying to you wanted to add to the above conversation. Good luck with the auction!

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2012, 07:30:32 PM »
So sorry, didn't mean to question you, just after replying to you wanted to add to the above conversation. Good luck with the auction!
Not a problem and  thank you!!

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2012, 07:33:39 PM »
I wonder what the company will think after a few weeks seeing that so many schools exists in these few Jewish zip code neighborhoods.

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2012, 07:36:28 PM »
I wonder what the company will think after a few weeks seeing that so many schools exists in these few Jewish zip code neighborhoods.
If you like I am sure I could recruit some help to offset that problem or just post it at another site.
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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2012, 07:42:36 PM »
If you like I am sure I could recruit some help to offset that problem or just post it at another site.
I'm sure FW/SD effect would be happy to kill this in a matter of hours :P
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Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2012, 07:47:19 PM »
i mistakinly took the coffee option for my school. guess they'll end up with a ton of coffee!

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2012, 07:52:40 PM »
I'm sure FW/SD effect wold be happy to kill this in a matter of hours :P
No argument from me!
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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2012, 08:37:10 PM »
I wonder what the company will think after a few weeks seeing that so many schools exists in these few Jewish zip code neighborhoods.

It's prob worse than you think, there was an mini article in the lakewood shopper about this!

Also without bringing this into an ethical debate, i just wanted to mention that the company does not stipulate how many people must enter the raffle or auction or how much money is made on behalf of the school in said auction, therefor someone who wrote a legit charity/school and then does a small raffle, amongst a few people anrd gives the proceeds to theschool....say 5$, has done nothing illegal or halachically unlawful

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Re: Free Kuerig for Tzedakas!!
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2012, 05:40:55 PM »
they stopped giving out the Brewer