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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #260 on: January 31, 2024, 01:29:04 PM »
Interestingly, there are several Chabad hashgachos listed here:

https://consumer.crckosher.org/acceptable-kashrus-agencies/

What do they do differently?

While I see several Chabad Rabbonim, I only see Chabad mentioned in the symbol on Bahamas and Puerto Rico.

AFAIK Chabad should not be mentioned, so I'd be extra careful with those that do.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #261 on: January 31, 2024, 06:48:17 PM »
Differently than?


Shluchim that aren't listed

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #262 on: January 31, 2024, 06:48:46 PM »
While I see several Chabad Rabbonim, I only see Chabad mentioned in the symbol on Bahamas and Puerto Rico.

AFAIK Chabad should not be mentioned, so I'd be extra careful with those that do.


Why shouldn't Chabad be mentioned?

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #263 on: January 31, 2024, 07:20:49 PM »

Why shouldn't Chabad be mentioned?

Because Chabad isn't supposed to give Hechsherim (under Chabad name, possibly except for when there's an established local BD Chabad).

Encourage Jews to keep kosher to the best standard you can get them to keep, but keep Chabad name out of the Kashrus business.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #264 on: January 31, 2024, 07:23:10 PM »

Shluchim that aren't listed

Many shluchim get additional income as mashgichim in factories for national (or Heimishe) hashgochos. Giving their own Hechsher is a totally different issue. IF they are qualified, they might do it not under the Chabad name. For example see Nemes from Louisiana, even though cRc has him listed as Chabad, the Hechsher doesn't mention it or present itself as such.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #265 on: January 31, 2024, 08:07:17 PM »
Many shluchim get additional income as mashgichim in factories for national (or Heimishe) hashgochos. Giving their own Hechsher is a totally different issue. IF they are qualified, they might do it not under the Chabad name. For example see Nemes from Louisiana, even though cRc has him listed as Chabad, the Hechsher doesn't mention it or present itself as such.


The way I read it (as someone who doesn't know Chabad policies) is that CRC looked into these specific shluchim (not sure why they on the CRC radar) and they are testifying that they are up to CRC standards. If I would go to the Bahamas I would have no problem eating at the restaurant based on this.

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #266 on: January 31, 2024, 08:09:55 PM »

The way I read it (as someone who doesn't know Chabad policies) is that CRC looked into these specific shluchim (not sure why they on the CRC radar) and they are testifying that they are up to CRC standards. If I would go to the Bahamas I would have no problem eating at the restaurant based on this.
Not sure what's complicated. These shluchim offer commercial hashgocha, most don't.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #267 on: January 31, 2024, 08:26:58 PM »
For example see Nemes from Louisiana, even though cRc has him listed as Chabad, the Hechsher doesn't mention it or present itself as such.

Then why does CRC list it?
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #268 on: January 31, 2024, 08:27:59 PM »
Not sure what's complicated. These shluchim offer commercial hashgocha, most don't.


They supervise things other than what they sell?

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #269 on: January 31, 2024, 08:34:30 PM »

They supervise things other than what they sell?
Obviously
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #270 on: January 31, 2024, 08:42:33 PM »
Maybe they reached out to CRC/AKO tto make sure they are operating at the proper standards for their own establishment.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #271 on: January 31, 2024, 08:46:59 PM »
Obviously
not obvious


Maybe they reached out to CRC/AKO tto make sure they are operating at the proper standards for their own establishment.


This is the first thing that crossed my mind to o

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #272 on: January 31, 2024, 09:17:09 PM »
Then why does CRC list it?

Ask them.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #273 on: January 31, 2024, 09:25:07 PM »
Maybe they reached out to CRC/AKO tto make sure they are operating at the proper standards for their own establishment.
Which of those have their own "establishment"
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #274 on: January 31, 2024, 09:46:38 PM »
Answer from a shliach operating a self certified restaurant in response to the question if  he follows the generally accepted guidelines/method of national agencies (including ok & CHK) for checking produce.... "You think I'm a baal tshuva?"

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #275 on: January 31, 2024, 11:03:02 PM »
Which of those have their own "establishment"


Chabad of the Bahamas

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #276 on: January 31, 2024, 11:07:01 PM »

Chabad of the Bahamas
Where is their establishment?
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #277 on: February 01, 2024, 07:54:57 AM »
Where is their establishment?


All those restaurants in Baha Mar  aren't theirs?

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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #278 on: February 01, 2024, 12:37:37 PM »

All those restaurants in Baha Mar  aren't theirs?
No.
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Re: Kashrus of Chabad Shluchim
« Reply #279 on: February 01, 2024, 12:53:50 PM »
No.
Interesting. Speaking to people who were there, they integrate pretty seamlessly.