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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #560 on: August 18, 2022, 04:02:15 PM »
IMHO they don't want it released as it will look bad.
Probably but apparently not enough to argue against it.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #561 on: August 18, 2022, 04:07:31 PM »
Probably but apparently not enough to argue against it.
Arguing one way or the other probably wouldn't matter. Arguing against and they would be found guilty in the court of public opinion. Just look how the tide turned when we found this was not just about removing some documents but also about espionage and obstruction of justice. 
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #562 on: August 18, 2022, 08:34:18 PM »
Bolton, Kelly, and Mulvaney all on the record saying the there was no standing order to declassify. Others off the record laughed and called it BS.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #563 on: August 18, 2022, 08:36:27 PM »
Bolton, Kelly, and Mulvaney all on the record saying the there was no standing order to declassify. Others off the record laughed and called it BS.
To state the obvious
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #568 on: August 22, 2022, 05:39:03 PM »
Former President Donald Trump's legal team has asked a federal judge to appoint a "special master" to ensure the Justice Department returns any of his private documents seized during the search of Mar-a-Lago two weeks ago.

Trump is asking for a special master -- a third-party attorney -- to oversee the review of evidence gathered from the beach club in the criminal probe, and for the judge to pause federal investigators' work related to the evidence until the review is done, according to a new court filing.


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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #569 on: August 22, 2022, 07:31:59 PM »
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64911367/trump-v-united-states-government/

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Mr. Bratt declined to provide the Search Warrant and Affidavit, stating that after the FBI agents finished their search, President Trump would be provided with a copy of the Search Warrant...

Is it common practice to only give a copy of the warrant after the search is over?

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #570 on: August 22, 2022, 07:52:54 PM »
Is it common practice to only give a copy of the warrant after the search is over?
What difference does it matter. They were given a copy then lied about it.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #571 on: August 22, 2022, 07:56:56 PM »
What difference does it matter. They were given a copy then lied about it.

Why does that make it matter less?
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #572 on: August 22, 2022, 08:09:34 PM »
Why does that make it matter less?
It is all a smoke screen. They received their copy. If they gave it at the beginning or the end it would have made no difference as they would still have lied.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #573 on: August 22, 2022, 08:12:09 PM »
It is all a smoke screen. They received their copy. If they gave it at the beginning or the end it would have made no difference as they would still have lied.

What doe this have to do with a smoke screen? He is asking a question based on a court filing.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #574 on: August 22, 2022, 08:15:26 PM »
What doe this have to do with a smoke screen? He is asking a question based on a court filing.
Ok fine. What difference does it make if it is common practice or not?
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #575 on: August 22, 2022, 08:48:08 PM »
Ok fine. What difference does it make if it is common practice or not?

Because if they deviated from standard practice that is a problem.

Aside for this, to me it was striking that the lawyer described being shown the warrant from a distance, and then finding out that she was actually given a copy. It seemed like she made something up out of thin air. I now see that while she may have been misleading, she was describing an event that actually took place.

I also now understand why some people on the Trump team thought that they were not given a copy. They had probably heard about them not giving it all day and did not get the message that it was given at the end.

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #576 on: August 22, 2022, 08:52:24 PM »
Because if they deviated from standard practice that is a problem.
That is exactly what I expected from you. Every search is different. Unless you have something that states they must receive a copy at the beginning then it is a nothingburger.

Not even going to address the rest of the pretzel.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #577 on: August 22, 2022, 09:07:34 PM »
Not even going to address the rest of the pretzel.

As expected.

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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #578 on: August 22, 2022, 09:10:36 PM »
As expected.
They lied about the search warrant the day after. Stop making excuses for this bunch of liars.
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Re: FBI Raids Mar A Lago
« Reply #579 on: August 22, 2022, 09:22:32 PM »
They lied about the search warrant the day after. Stop making excuses for this bunch of liars.
The fact is he asked a yes or no question and you didnít give him a yes or no answer. Iíve seen that upset you in the past ;)

I agree with you that since they were given a warrant that day a lot of the original Trumpist arguments have dissipated.
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