Are you an election denier?

[yungermanchik]

the big lie

What proof do you have that it's a lie?

If it's set up in a way that if there would be fraud, it would not be discoverable; How can the lack of evidence give us any indication of what did or didn't take place?

[moko]

People board planes as other people all the time so what is your point?

exactly. And therefore we should get rid of the id requirement entirely.
In general, any rule/law that we find people are cheating, should be abolished

[yungermanchik]

People board planes as other people all the time so what is your point?

It diminishes that possibility by at least as much as cloth asks diminish the possibility of spreading Covid-19.

[CountValentine]

That obviously it doesn’t work, so get rid of it.

No it works just about all the time. Just like our national elections are secure just about all the time. When was the last election we had fraud that changed the result or even came close?

[CountValentine]

What proof do you have that it's a lie?

People are stupid. They would get caught right away.

Are you saying it isn't a big lie?

[yungermanchik]

Are you saying it isn't a big lie?

I am saying that I have no clear proof one way or the other.

People are stupid. They would get caught right away.

How would they get caught if they sent in the various mail-in ballots that came to their house without even asking? Or people "helping" the elderly in nursing homes etc.

[CountValentine]

I am saying that I have no clear proof one way or the other.

The court cases tell us there has been no evidence of widespread voter fraud, no?

[aygart]

election day in-person only voting.

Why only election day?

[yungermanchik]

The court cases tell us there has been no evidence of widespread voter fraud, no?

No evidence ≠ evidence against.

[CountValentine]

Why only election day?

If you are too lazy to get to the polls on election day you shouldn't be voting. 

[imayid2]

Why only election day?

Why not half a year?

[aygart]

You keep ignoring the fact this was all a result of the big lie.

Untrue and that is why they had the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity before this election.

[CountValentine]

No evidence ≠ evidence against.

To think there was widespread voter fraud with no one found evidence of it has a 0.00001 probability. 

[aygart]

The court cases tell us there has been no evidence of widespread voter fraud, no?

Most of the court cases didn't reach the point of presenting evidence. Which both investigated and found no evidence? I may not have seen it.

[CountValentine]

Untrue and that is why they had the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity before this election.

ROFLMAO!!!
The establishment of the commission followed Trump's false claim that millions of illegal immigrants had voted in the 2016 presidential election, costing him the popular vote.

[biobook]

Photo ID and social security number would be a nice start.
Is there any government office, or private business, that does less than that?

Drivers license would be okay?  I used that to register to vote, and to get the ballot mailed to me.

The ballot states that voting fraudulently or more than once can lead to 3d degree felony charge and a fine of up to $5000 and/or up to 5 years in prison. 

[imayid2]

Nobody disagrees. What do you suggest needs to be done to ensure elections are secure?

Not so fast

Just like our national elections are secure

[CountValentine]

Most of the court cases didn't reach the point of presenting evidence.

They were laughable and thrown out. Many were in front of R judges.
Look at every state recount results. Look at the what the SOS of R states have concluded.
The evidence is overwhelming except to ED's.

[imayid2]

Drivers license would be okay?  I used that to register to vote, and to get the ballot mailed to me.

The ballot states that voting fraudulently or more than once can lead to 3d degree felony charge and a fine of up to $5000 and/or up to 5 years in prison.

Try going to the bank and telling them you don’t need ID because you showed it to them when you opened the account.

[biobook]

How would they get caught if they sent in the various mail-in ballots that came to their house without even asking?

In registering to vote, one has to provide a signature, which is kept on file in digital format.
The mail-in ballot requires a signature as well, on the outside envelope, and that signature is compared to the digital one on file.  So if someone sent in 7 ballots all signed in the same handwriting and that don't match the signature of the named voter, they would be caught.