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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2022, 12:53:35 AM »
People will never learn.
Personal I don't think the issue with this case was driving drunk, I think the issue was driving extremely reckless.
According to the police report he was driving over 100 MPH.
Don't get me wrong, nobody should be driving drunk, but in this case the kid was extremely reckless and foolish.

I still remember the days when (certain) yeshivos didn't allow bochurim to drive (more common in EY).
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2022, 01:03:28 AM »
I still remember the days when (certain) yeshivos didn't allow bochurim to drive (more common in EY).

Was about to say that. Still the norm in the chassidish circles here in America too. Can't even fathom what would happen every bain hazmanim if the bochurim would drive around.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #102 on: August 17, 2022, 01:04:56 AM »
I still remember the days when (certain) yeshivos didn't allow bochurim to drive (more common in EY).

Basically every self respecting yeshiva in Israel doesn't allow the bochurim to get licences, without special exception for extenuating circumstances. It's also hard to get a licence under the table there without yeshiva finding out - the yeshivos have contacts in the Motor Vehicles and Licensing Department, who alert them when a licence is issued to an identity number on their watch list. (There's nothing shady or illegal about it as far as I know - the boys sign consent forms to this when enrolling.)

I don't know if they're anti driving licenses for safety reasons as much as for distraction reasons, though. Regardless, it's not realistic to implement such a model in America. Both American society and our transportation models and societal norms regarding vehicle ownership are very different.

Many American yeshivas do have rules about driving to or bringing cars to yeshiva.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #103 on: August 17, 2022, 01:07:06 AM »
Is it just me, or does this thread feel like mostly straight lashon hara? (Before anyone says anything about awareness, we're preaching to the choir.)

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #104 on: August 17, 2022, 08:55:36 AM »
People will never learn.
Personal I don't think the issue with this case was driving drunk, I think the issue was driving extremely reckless.
According to the police report he was driving over 100 MPH.
Don't get me wrong, nobody should be driving drunk, but in this case the kid was extremely reckless and foolish.

He was driving 100 MPH on a windy road where some parts are barely even safe at 40 MPH. You don't think alcohol had to do with that poor judgement?
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #105 on: August 17, 2022, 09:35:03 AM »
He was driving 100 MPH on a windy road where some parts are barely even safe at 40 MPH. You don't think alcohol had to do with that poor judgement?

Could be, but also the time might have played a factor in the speed

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #106 on: August 17, 2022, 09:36:44 AM »
Could be, but also the time might have played a factor in the speed
Of course. And alcohol definitely played a part in that.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #107 on: August 17, 2022, 01:36:45 PM »
He was driving 100 MPH on a windy road where some parts are barely even safe at 40 MPH. You don't think alcohol had to do with that poor judgement?
No more bein hashmoshos parties

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #108 on: August 17, 2022, 02:07:58 PM »
No more bein hashmoshos parties

Who is going to make that rule and are those who make them going to listen?
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #109 on: August 17, 2022, 03:04:40 PM »
No more bein hashmoshos parties

Relevance? It’s not like anyone is driving on Shabbos?
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #110 on: August 17, 2022, 03:06:34 PM »
Who is going to make that rule and are those who make them going to listen?
I dont know whos making rules, but common sense tells me that if a 20 year-old is in my house and he's 4 times the limit -  DONT LET HIM DRIVE!

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #111 on: August 17, 2022, 03:08:35 PM »
I dont know whos making rules, but common sense tells me that if a 20 year-old is in my house and he's 4 times the limit -  DONT LET HIM DRIVE!

I don't think you are understanding who it is that makes these drunken parties that go right up to shabbos.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #112 on: August 17, 2022, 03:09:05 PM »
Relevance? It’s not like anyone is driving on Shabbos?
The accident occurred between licht and shkia.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #113 on: August 17, 2022, 03:26:20 PM »
 The police got the call 4 min before shkia.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #114 on: August 17, 2022, 03:35:35 PM »
bein hashmoshos parties
Can someone enlighten me on what this is? Is this a popular thing to do?

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #115 on: August 17, 2022, 03:35:52 PM »
I don't think you are understanding who it is that makes these drunken parties that go right up to shabbos.

Who came up with this idea? I don't remember anything like that being a thing in my days in Yeshiva.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #117 on: August 17, 2022, 03:46:53 PM »
Who came up with this idea? I don't remember anything like that being a thing in my days in Yeshiva.
From what I understand, its a long afternoon and people make rounds eating kugel and cholent and drinking.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2022, 03:50:23 PM »
From what I understand, its a long afternoon and people make rounds eating kugel and cholent and drinking.
It's called toameha

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2022, 03:50:46 PM »
Who came up with this idea? I don't remember anything like that being a thing in my days in Yeshiva.

Well, obviously not. Picture in your mind what type would be having a drunken party at someone else's house or hosting one until minutes before shabbos.
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