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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #140 on: August 17, 2022, 07:31:14 PM »
It's not very new. I remember staff in camp doing this, both when I was a camper, and later as a staff member myself. And I'm pretty sure the staff members when I was a camper didn't invent the concept, so we're probably going back 40+ years.
It's been around a really long time

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #141 on: August 17, 2022, 08:04:40 PM »
It's been around a really long time

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That has nothing to do with getting drunk.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #142 on: August 17, 2022, 08:07:20 PM »
That has nothing to do with getting drunk.
But getting drunk has been around a really long time

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #143 on: August 17, 2022, 08:21:03 PM »
But getting drunk has been around a really long time

Indeed. Contributing factor in the lineage of Moshiach.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #144 on: August 17, 2022, 08:50:55 PM »
Indeed. Contributing factor in the lineage of Moshiach.
What a way to be dan lkaf zchus.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #145 on: August 17, 2022, 09:09:37 PM »
But getting drunk has been around a really long time
Afternoon is always שכיח שכרות according to the gemara
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #146 on: August 17, 2022, 09:31:47 PM »
He was driving 100 MPH on a windy road where some parts are barely even safe at 40 MPH. You don't think alcohol had to do with that poor judgement?
I don't think he was the safest driver sober.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #147 on: August 17, 2022, 09:40:12 PM »
I don't think he was the safest driver sober.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #148 on: August 17, 2022, 09:57:22 PM »
Drinking or not, reckless driving has got to stop.

It's not gonna stop till there are serious consequences.

The insular Jewish community may not really connect to the victim and family.

You can bet if it was a frum family who's car was over turned and killed r'l the storm and protests this would cause

Nebech these are stam goyim according to these drivers, they'll pay the family off and well shit happens.



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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #149 on: August 17, 2022, 10:17:08 PM »
I was blown out of the way by Skver convoy going well over 80mps a couple of weeks ago on the GSP (speed limit 65)
 I wish there was a nice way to deal with this but if it takes naming and shaming to save lives so be it...
see most recent episode from headlines https://halachaheadlines.com/episodes/motzei-shabbos-nachamu-celebrations-is-the-drinking-getting-out-of-hand-why-do-we-always-wait-for-a-tragedy-to-hit/

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #150 on: August 17, 2022, 10:55:17 PM »

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #151 on: August 17, 2022, 11:29:05 PM »
I was blown out of the way by Skver convoy going well over 80mps a couple of weeks ago on the GSP (speed limit 65)
 I wish there was a nice way to deal with this but if it takes naming and shaming to save lives so be it...
see most recent episode from headlines https://halachaheadlines.com/episodes/motzei-shabbos-nachamu-celebrations-is-the-drinking-getting-out-of-hand-why-do-we-always-wait-for-a-tragedy-to-hit/

There are many things to be said about these convoys, but going 80 on the GSP is not exactly on top of that list. 80 is pretty normal on most parts of the GSP.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #152 on: August 17, 2022, 11:30:33 PM »
There are many things to be said about these convoys, but going 80 on the GSP is not exactly on top of that list. 80 is pretty normal on most parts of the GSP.
-80 on the GSP calls for a double parked ticket

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #153 on: August 17, 2022, 11:50:55 PM »
You can bet if it was a frum family who's car was over turned and killed r'l the storm and protests this would cause
Nebech these are stam goyim according to these drivers, they'll pay the family off and well shit happens.
Full stop. Frum yiddin have been killed from reckless drivers & there were no storms or protests.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #154 on: August 17, 2022, 11:53:15 PM »
Full stop. Frum yiddin have been killed from reckless drivers & there were no storms or protests.
More then once unfortunately
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #155 on: August 17, 2022, 11:54:33 PM »
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #156 on: August 18, 2022, 12:52:34 AM »
I agree with most of what you wrote, but despite the young aggressive drivers, pidyon shvuim has nothing to do with fault.
Are you positive about that?
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #157 on: August 18, 2022, 06:53:40 AM »

And if one is in a party so close to Shabbos and wanting to call it טועמיה, let them just practice תוספת שבת מלפניה and refrain from driving.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #158 on: August 18, 2022, 05:34:09 PM »
He was driving 100 MPH on a windy road where some parts are barely even safe at 40 MPH. You don't think alcohol had to do with that poor judgement?

Could be, but also the time might have played a factor in the speed

Of course. And alcohol definitely played a part in that.

This is almost like a what came first, the chicken or the egg, kind of question.

Poor judgment across the board: getting drunk, driving so close to Shabbos, thinking that speeding has a better chance of avoiding chilul Shabbos - whereas if all goes smooth it would cut 2 minutes at most, and the risk of it causing a significant delay or tragedy is great, driving while intoxicated.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #159 on: August 18, 2022, 05:54:33 PM »
This is almost like a what came first, the chicken or the egg, kind of question.

Poor judgment across the board: getting drunk, driving so close to Shabbos, thinking that speeding has a better chance of avoiding chilul Shabbos - whereas if all goes smooth it would cut 2 minutes at most, and the risk of it causing a significant delay or tragedy is great, driving while intoxicated.
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