Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts

[ExGingi]

Either way, the title of this thread has nothing to do with where it has gone. I think it is time for another name change.

Yup. Putting "Rebbe" in there was a poor choice IMHO.

It's all about reckless driving/poor judgment of young adults.

[drosenberg88429]

Yup. Putting "Rebbe" in there was a poor choice IMHO.

It's all about reckless driving/poor judgment of young adults.

The thread started off making more sense (although like most internet pundit sites, it was really a way for everyone to get a turn on the soapbox decrying people and activities which we can't and won't do much about anyways). If the convoys and motorcades are indeed frequently engaging in dangerous behavior, that is something that the people in charge can do something about. Leadership intervention is most effective when it pertains to something done as a community and in an organized fashion, and much less effective when it comes to an individual's spur of the moment private actions.

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Yup. Putting "Rebbe" in there was a poor choice IMHO.

It's all about reckless driving/poor judgment of young adults.

No, the original msg had to do with a Rebbe. Highly doubt that driver would have done so without the Rebbe involved

[YitzyS]

[EliJelly]

No, the original msg had to do with a Rebbe. Highly doubt that driver would have done so without the Rebbe involved

The מלך פורץ גדר attitude

[ExGingi]

No, the original msg had to do with a Rebbe. Highly doubt that driver would have done so without the Rebbe involved

Reminds me of my FIL הכ"מ line: אלע שרייען רבי און מיינען זיך.

[avromie7]

When I took a mandatory 5 hour course before procuring a vehicular license, the instructor said that the most common question he receives is "How long is your 5 hour course", (which is pretty similar to asking to "What color was George Washington's white horse?"). The answer was 2 hours, because half of the curriculum was regarding drinking and driving, which is extremely uncommon in our circles. (The regular driving safety part of the curriculum was pretty draconian and fire and brimstone, btw - the presentation didn't pull any punches or gloss over that.) The reason he gave is that while our community is certainly not immune to problematic drinking, our drinking habits are that when people drink, they tend to get pretty drunk, without any thoughts of operating a motor vehicle. It's not common in our culture for one to drive to a bar or party on the way home from work, drink a few shots, and then drive home. For the most part, in my experience, I think this is pretty accurate. Drinking is a serious and unfortunately common issue in our circles. Hazardous driving is a serious and unfortunately common issue in our circles. Drinking and driving, however, is very uncommon, and not at all a systemic issue. This story was an anomaly and the exception, not the norm, to the best of my knowledge. I wouldn't blame it on our educational system's derelictions.

At some point I wondered why drunk driving is such a big issue, yet I never felt a major urge to drive drunk. I came to the conclusion that it's because I generally only drink on Shabbos and Yom Tov when driving is not an option. On other occasions I make sure not to drink too much or make sure I don't need to drive.

[Euclid]

At some point I wondered why drunk driving is such a big issue, yet I never felt a major urge to drive drunk. I came to the conclusion that it's because I generally only drink on Shabbos and Yom Tov when driving is not an option. On other occasions I make sure not to drink too much or make sure I don't need to drive.

I guess you don't often attend the parlor meeting parties

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Or weddings..

Going out to drink is actually probably the least of my concerns, I have 1 pint, max 1.5


The issue is, drinking more than 1 beverage per hour and it's prolonged drinking in a social setting that you are not keeping track of.

How much wine did I drink at the wedding last night? Probably 1 bottle, Uber was $28 each way but that's the safe way

Although to be honest, the wedding lasted 5 hours etc

I just can't really envision someone driving 100+ on a reg road and it being due to drinking. It needs to be a typical thing for said driver and the crash mirrored the loss of reflexes from drinking.

[ExGingi]

I just can't really envision someone driving 100+ on a reg road and it being due to drinking. It needs to be a typical thing for said driver and the crash mirrored the loss of reflexes from drinking.

He seemingly thought (using bad and impaired judgment) that speeding would get him to his destination before shkia.

[WonderingYid]

[Euclid]

Link?

[ExGingi]

Hence.  Definitely not in a Chevy Malibu.

Chevy Impala is a different animal.

[CountValentine]

Chevy Impala is a different animal.

Does it make a difference in this case?

[ExGingi]

Does it make a difference in this case?

People were doubting whether the vehicle could do 100mph (on that road). The Impala is a stronger and heavier vehicle than a Malibu.

[Euclid]

Does it make a difference in this case?

puns always make a difference

[CountValentine]

People were doubting whether the vehicle could do 100mph (on that road). The Impala is a stronger and heavier vehicle than a Malibu.

Some lighter cars today handle better. I am sure they could both hit 100.
My daughter has a Forte and that little car is a beast.

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Not teaching our youth the dangers and hazards because we don't deem it relevant.

I'm not saying that yeshivas should teach safe sex or STD prevention . But focusing on how evil sex is and knowing it'll happen..

It's like Adam telling chava not to touch the tree.

Certainly youth need to know the dangers of reckless driving, drinking, drinking and driving etc

[CountValentine]

It's like Adam telling chava not to touch the tree.

Chava? Is that Eve?

[TimT]

Chava? Is that Eve?

yes