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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2022, 03:46:09 PM »


There is a benefit in seeing too, as mentioned in chazal already "אמר רבי האי דמחדדנא מחבראי דחזיתיה לר' מאיר מאחוריה ואילו חזיתיה מקמיה הוה מחדדנא טפי דכתיב והיו עיניך רואות את מוריך", but seeing digitally doesn't accomplish that.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2022, 03:46:15 PM »
whoever doesn't know from what we are talking here

https://twitter.com/buchashem/status/1559586840767696897

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2022, 04:04:23 PM »
whoever doesn't know from what we are talking here

https://twitter.com/buchashem/status/1559586840767696897
Not sure if anyone realizes that this car with buchrim hanging from it is going in front of the Rabbi's car, so assumingly the Rabbi is seeing all of that, doesn't he care for his own people?
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2022, 04:09:09 PM »
Not sure if anyone realizes that this car with buchrim hanging from it is going in front of the Rabbi's car, so assumingly the Rabbi is seeing all of that, doesn't he care for his own people?

I have one word for you: Nonsense… don’t be stupid!
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2022, 04:10:48 PM »
Not sure if anyone realizes that this car with buchrim hanging from it is going in front of the Rabbi's car, so assumingly the Rabbi is seeing all of that, doesn't he care for his own people?
I cant see the tweet and/or attachment, but hence:

If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2022, 04:13:26 PM »



For a second I thought it said Maamarim with the Rebbe's drivers.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2022, 04:14:07 PM »
For a second I thought it said Maamarim with the Rebbe's drivers.
One track minded  ;D
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2022, 04:14:33 PM »
There is a benefit in seeing too, as mentioned in chazal already "אמר רבי האי דמחדדנא מחבראי דחזיתיה לר' מאיר מאחוריה ואילו חזיתיה מקמיה הוה מחדדנא טפי דכתיב והיו עיניך רואות את מוריך", but seeing digitally doesn't accomplish that.

It is why Moshe took off his mask when teaching the yiiden.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2022, 04:20:03 PM »
Wow! People don't realize how easily they can mess up someone else's life when they are lax about safety while driving. Even a small fender bender is a tremendous pain to deal with. And it only gets worse from there.

Mess up? It can C"V end someone's life!
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2022, 04:21:03 PM »
I cant see the tweet and/or attachment, but hence:

Point is, there is a lot of dangerous activity going on around him for years and many people have been injured all in the name of...Kuvid for the Rabbi, so please don't try convincing me with this letter that things will change!
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2022, 04:26:03 PM »
I'm going crazy, wanna come along?
No!
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2022, 04:28:37 PM »
Point is, there is a lot of dangerous activity going on around him for years and many people have been injured all in the name of...Kuvid for the Rabbi, so please don't try convincing me with this letter that things will change!

Point is, there is a lot of beautiful ruchniyos’diga activity going around him for decades, and many people have elevated their lifestyle because of his efforts. So please don’t try convincing me with these few episodes.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2022, 04:36:05 PM »
Point is, there is a lot of beautiful ruchniyos’diga activity going around him for decades, and many people have elevated their lifestyle because of his efforts. So please don’t try convincing me with these few episodes.
I agree that it's a nice chasidus bruchniyos and he does a lot of nice things, just saying that some people around him are unfortunately dangerous and that makes me sick.
Why does he let it happen??
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2022, 04:39:35 PM »
Nobody is trying to convince you that people aren't 'elevating their lifestyle''.

However, the fact that lots of beautiful ruchniyos happens around someone does not excuse any stupid, dangerous or reckless behavior.

You’re one hundred percent right, but when Yosefsv brings an official document that condemned this behavior, please don’t try pushing an agenda claiming that “there’s dangerous behavior around him…” that poster clearly states from the Rebbe’s secretaries that no one should escort him, is that not enough to show that this is not the interest of the Rebbe?
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2022, 04:45:25 PM »
You’re one hundred percent right, but when Yosefsv brings an official document that condemned this behavior, please don’t try pushing an agenda claiming that “there’s dangerous behavior around him…” that poster clearly states from the Rebbe’s secretaries that no one should escort him, is that not enough to show that this is not the interest of the Rebbe?

If the letter didn't change anything and there were no further steps taken then it is lip service. Not saying that is what happened, but if it did or it took a long time of numerous incidents to have such a letter and then that is it then no it is not enough.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2022, 04:49:26 PM »
You’re one hundred percent right, but when Yosefsv brings an official document that condemned this behavior, please don’t try pushing an agenda claiming that “there’s dangerous behavior around him…” that poster clearly states from the Rebbe’s secretaries that no one should escort him, is that not enough to show that this is not the interest of the Rebbe?
1. When you've seen these papers in the past and they don't seem to help...
2. what does לתולת הענין mean? if I understand it correctly it means because there was an accident yesterday and this community is under spotlight, so let's keep back until everything calms back down.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2022, 05:00:56 PM »
1. When you've seen these papers in the past and they don't seem to help...
2. what does לתולת הענין mean? if I understand it correctly it means because there was an accident yesterday and this community is under spotlight, so let's keep back until everything calms back down.

1. I can’t imagine what you expect  him to do?

2. I don’t know to what accident you are referring to. The date on the poster is from a few weeks ago.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2022, 05:04:25 PM »
1. When you've seen these papers in the past and they don't seem to help...
2. what does לתולת הענין mean? if I understand it correctly it means because there was an accident yesterday and this community is under spotlight, so let's keep back until everything calms back down.

This was dated a few weeks ago.
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Re: Rebbe Lights-and-Siren Escorts
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2022, 05:08:29 PM »
1. I can’t imagine what you expect  him to do?

2. I don’t know to what accident you are referring to. The date on the poster is from a few weeks ago.

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