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Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« on: August 19, 2022, 11:09:17 AM »
Does anyone have any tricks to use a staircase in a hotel that has censors for the lights when you walk in?

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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2022, 11:14:33 AM »
close your eyes

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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2022, 11:17:42 AM »
There's a thread for this.

From a quick search of that thread it seems like there's no magical solution:

Find another hotel? Any ground floor rooms or alternate staircases?
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

Either way if you don't need the light to get down the stairs it is פסיק רישא דלא ניחא ליה, which according to R Shlomo Zalman that electricity is derbanen is not a problem. The only problem is according to the chazon ish that electricity is deoriasa. AFAIK most people are not machmir.
if it enhances (ie: makes it easier to to go down) it may be nicha lei

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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2022, 11:30:20 AM »

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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2022, 11:47:50 AM »
FTFY
no its an actual psak from R Ribiats 39 melachos book that one should close their eyes if a sensor triggers the light so as not to benefit from the light. Obviously its different to go in lichatchila
« Last Edit: August 19, 2022, 11:57:58 AM by Luvisrael »

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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2022, 12:18:05 PM »
Frog dissection alert. Euclid was talking about censors.

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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2022, 05:32:20 PM »
Does anyone have any tricks to use a staircase in a hotel that has censors for the lights when you walk in?
anyway to cover the sensor before shabbos?

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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2022, 05:38:23 PM »
Frog dissection alert. Euclid was talking about censors.

When I came to read this you had four likes and he had none. What does that say about DDF and likes?
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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2022, 05:41:43 PM »
Frog dissection alert. Euclid was talking about censors.
They would be very unpleasant to be stuck with. At least they are only by the steps.
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Re: Stuck in a hotel with censors for shabbos
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2022, 07:31:19 PM »
anyway to cover the sensor before shabbos?
You can put a piece of tape over it, but it might get removed if the light doesn't turn on... YMMV
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