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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2022, 09:33:51 AM »
IIRC I wrote about this all the way at the beginning of the pandemic. There was no exit strategy and none should have been expected from the medical experts. Their expertise is medicine not policy. The best way to prevent spread is for everyone to isolate for who knows how long and to use the draconian measures seen in China. That is a great medical statement but not great policy. Once they started becoming the actual policy makers it was aproblem.
The problem started when they disagreed. Social distancing and masking were sound policies.
Every should have expected them to fall strictly on the medicine side.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2022, 10:13:27 AM »
The problem started when they disagreed. Social distancing and masking were sound policies.
Every should have expected them to fall strictly on the medicine side.

The problem started when they weren't consistent with "medical" policies. And some of these "falling on the medicine side" policies ran counter to other non covid but equally important medical policies, and they didn't have the courage or common sense to properly manage risk assessment.

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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2022, 10:18:41 AM »
The problem started when they weren't consistent with "medical" policies. And some of these "falling on the medicine side" policies ran counter to other non covid but equally important medical policies, and they didn't have the courage or common sense to properly manage risk assessment.
There was no issue with Dr Brix until the very end when she spoke out about the crazy stuff going on in the admin. While what you are saying is true the major push was because they disagreed with you know who.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2022, 10:21:03 AM »
There was no issue with Dr Brix until the very end when she spoke out about the crazy stuff going on in the admin. While what you are saying is true the major push was because they disagreed with you know who.

You mean the very same Dr Brix who just announced they need to revamp the entire CDC because the of how badly they screwed up with covid?

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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2022, 10:34:22 AM »
You mean the very same Dr Brix who just announced they need to revamp the entire CDC because the of how badly they screwed up with covid?
Strawman arguments doesn't change the fact of when they turned on her.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2022, 01:08:51 PM »
There was no issue with Dr Brix until the very end when she spoke out about the crazy stuff going on in the admin. While what you are saying is true the major push was because they disagreed with you know who.
You mean the Dr birx that said we shouldn't travel for Thanksgiving and then traveled and hosted a party?

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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2022, 01:16:12 PM »
You mean the Dr birx that said we shouldn't travel for Thanksgiving and then traveled and hosted a party?
Strawman arguments doesn't change the fact of when they turned on her.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2022, 01:29:38 PM »
Strawman arguments doesn't change the fact of when they turned on her.

Why is my comment any more a strawman than you bringing her into the discussion in the first place?

I couldn't give a rat's youknowwhat about Trump, his admin or anyone tied to him. I don't care if or when *they* turned on him or her. My issue is, as has been laid out extensively on other threads since about Lag B'Omer 2020 and the George Floyd riots began, the hypocritical and often plain stupid policy-making by public health over the course of the pandemic.

Every day new stories and studies are published by the very same people who were screaming bloody murder about masking and social distancing for kids or whatnot showing how harmful these policies were. As it relates to this thread, Fauci was the leader who set the tone for the "medical" response in this country. While he did many good things before and during covid, he also screwed up a whole lot. As did Dr. Birx and others. She admits as much by saying the CDC needs to be revamped.

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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2022, 02:03:50 PM »
Why is my comment any more a strawman than you bringing her into the discussion in the first place?

I couldn't give a rat's youknowwhat about Trump, his admin or anyone tied to him. I don't care if or when *they* turned on him or her. My issue is, as has been laid out extensively on other threads since about Lag B'Omer 2020 and the George Floyd riots began, the hypocritical and often plain stupid policy-making by public health over the course of the pandemic.

Every day new stories and studies are published by the very same people who were screaming bloody murder about masking and social distancing for kids or whatnot showing how harmful these policies were. As it relates to this thread, Fauci was the leader who set the tone for the "medical" response in this country. While he did many good things before and during covid, he also screwed up a whole lot. As did Dr. Birx and others. She admits as much by saying the CDC needs to be revamped.
You are entitled to your opinions as is everyone else. My point is how, why and when they turned on two of top experts in their field. You claim it was their policies and IMHO it was mostly to do with them disagreeing with you know who.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2022, 02:11:13 PM »
You are entitled to your opinions as is everyone else. My point is how, why and when they turned on two of top experts in their field. You claim it was their policies and IMHO it was mostly to do with them disagreeing with you know who.

Who is "they"?

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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2022, 02:14:59 PM »
Who is "they"?
The R base of about 33-35% and most likely a large percent of the 70% of R ED's.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2022, 02:28:11 PM »
The R base of about 33-35% and most likely a large percent of the 70% of R ED's.

What does that have to do with this discussion? If someone on DDF expresses dissatisfaction with a public official, it has to be because they disagreed with Trump? Well, here I am, someone who, to it mildly, disagrees with Trump a whole lot. I too think Fauci screwed up in a massive way. And there is evidence to suggest more nefarious things than "just" messing up with policy during a pandemic. *You* brought up Dr. Birx, saying criticism of her was political, then when I pointed out that she herself said the CDC screwed up majorly and needs to be revamped, you called that a strawman. Whether you don't know what a strawman is, or, more likely, I don't have a clue what you are trying to say.

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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2022, 02:34:16 PM »
What does that have to do with this discussion?
You can discuss what you want, and I will do the same. Just like some can post "good riddance" and memes.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2022, 02:39:22 PM »
You can discuss what you want, and I will do the same. Just like some can post "good riddance" and memes.



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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2022, 02:39:46 PM »
You are entitled to your opinions as is everyone else. My point is how, why and when they turned on two of top experts in their field. You claim it was their policies and IMHO it was mostly to do with them disagreeing with you know who.

So "they" are a bunch of idiots and the rest who turned on "them" since then or before then are correct in "their" assessment.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2022, 02:41:57 PM »
You can discuss what you want, and I will do the same. Just like some can post "good riddance" and memes.

Dude. You can't call out "strawman" or "facts" in response to legitimate comments and then say, "I'm just discussing." I mean, you can, but then don't claim to be straight Mr. Goalposts or whatever, just let us know you aren't responding on point and are just spouting random things that have nothing to do with the posts you're quoting.

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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2022, 02:43:09 PM »
So "they" are a bunch of idiots and the rest who turned on "them" since then or before then are correct in "their" assessment.
The assessment that some make (Yehuda57) has nothing to do with politics.
To ignore the political aspect is laughable.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2022, 02:45:21 PM »
Dude. You can't call out "strawman" or "facts" in response to legitimate comments and then say, "I'm just discussing." I mean, you can, but then don't claim to be straight Mr. Goalposts or whatever, just let us know you aren't responding on point and are just spouting random things that have nothing to do with the posts you're quoting.
The post I called out as strawman was. I never claimed to not have made a strawman argument. I have in the past and I am sure I will in the future.
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Re: Fauci To Resign
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2022, 02:46:57 PM »
The post I called out as strawman was.

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