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Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« on: September 05, 2022, 10:54:27 AM »
http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2013/11/re-manalapan-chinese-restaurant.html

This blogger is known for his extremism in kashrus, but this is definitely concerning. I wonder what the OK will say about this.
In favor of the store (which I hope is still kosher) There is no evidence of the non kosher chicken being brought into the store.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2022, 10:57:24 AM »
http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2013/11/re-manalapan-chinese-restaurant.html

This blogger is known for his extremism in kashrus, but this is definitely concerning. I wonder what the OK will say about this.
In favor of the store (which I hope is still kosher) There is no evidence of the non kosher chicken being brought into the store.

What the OK will say about a vague allegation from 2013?
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2022, 10:59:49 AM »
What the OK will say about a vague allegation from 2013?
I believe he posted something in 2013 about general disapproval of the establishment, and updated the post last week to add the allegations of the non kosher chicken.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2022, 11:23:20 AM »
It's suspicious that the food is half the price of any Lakewood establishment. Definitely fishy. Also there's a video going around of the goyish owner with a cart of trief chicken.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2022, 11:26:00 AM »
It's suspicious that the food is half the price of any Lakewood establishment. Definitely fishy. Also there's a video going around of the goyish owner with a cart of trief chicken.
Is this anything besides L"H?
Why can't restaurants charge less and do more business?
Why can't a goy buy treif chicken?
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2022, 11:48:21 AM »

Why can't restaurants charge less and do more business?

Speaking to this question specifically:
If it were in a location where one can say "I make it up with volume" that would make sense. This is in a VERY small community.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2022, 11:51:54 AM »
Speaking to this question specifically:
If it were in a location where one can say "I make it up with volume" that would make sense. This is in a VERY small community.
Never been there, but people can't order food for delivery or via uber, etc?
Never mind that frum restaurants overcharge because they need to provide he owner with the means for a frum lifestyle and other restaurants go along with that instead of competing on price.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2022, 12:27:42 PM »
http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2013/11/re-manalapan-chinese-restaurant.html

This blogger is known for his extremism in kashrus, but this is definitely concerning. I wonder what the OK will say about this.
In favor of the store (which I hope is still kosher) There is no evidence of the non kosher chicken being brought into the store.
Wooo. Never saw that site before and hope to never go there again. Didn't realize that some people have such major issues.  No clue who Yidel Shain is but I'm going to daven for him as well as many of the anonymous commenters.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2022, 12:27:52 PM »
Never been there, but people can't order food for delivery or via uber, etc?
Never mind that frum restaurants overcharge because they need to provide he owner with the means for a frum lifestyle and other restaurants go along with that instead of competing on price.

During the busiest food times it is well over a half hour drive
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2022, 01:19:59 PM »
During the busiest food times it is well over a half hour drive
I've always assumed that he sells to the non Jews in the area, as well as to people who work in that area.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2022, 01:41:22 PM »
During the busiest food times it is well over a half hour drive

I know people in Brooklyn that use them for events.

They are extremely cheap though.


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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2022, 02:09:14 PM »
Wooo. Never saw that site before and hope to never go there again. Didn't realize that some people have such major issues.  No clue who Yidel Shain is but I'm going to daven for him as well as many of the anonymous commenters.
He is definitely a radical but hes also exposed many real Kashrus problems. I believe he was the first one to discover the Shevach Meats scandal as well.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2022, 02:11:01 PM »
He is definitely a radical but hes also exposed many real Kashrus problems. I believe he was the first one to discover the Shevach Beef scandal as well.

By his telling. There are numerous holes in his story from then.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2022, 02:17:48 PM »
Is this anything besides L"H?
Why can't restaurants charge less and do more business?
Why can't a goy buy treif chicken?

Imagine if the owner of Le Marias was found buying cases of trief meat somewhere. You would be dan lekaf zechus?
also they closed permanently today after 20 years in business.
the pricing was too cheap to the point that the math just doesnt add up. (example Joe biden election)

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2022, 02:20:23 PM »
Imagine if the owner of Le Marias was found buying cases of trief meat somewhere. You would be dan lekaf zechus?
also they closed permanently today after 20 years in business.
the pricing was too cheap to the point that the math just doesnt add up. (example Joe biden election)
If he had another trief restaurant? And there's a mashgiach temidi? Why not?

NKS is also "too cheap" in that case. Are we saying that's also treif because it's cheap? Strange boich svara.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2022, 02:22:46 PM »
He is definitely a radical but hes also exposed many real Kashrus problems. I believe he was the first one to discover the Shevach Meats scandal as well.
OK but the Rabbinim, organizations, and communities that he (and some commenters) thinks is ok to bash....
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. But at what cost?
Anyway, I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about him/his website as I really know nothing. Just was commenting as it was my first time seeing that website and I was truly blown away.

Back on topic.
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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2022, 02:23:13 PM »
He is definitely a radical but hes also exposed many real Kashrus problems. I believe he was the first one to discover the Shevach Meats scandal as well.
and covered for others

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2022, 02:30:39 PM »
If he had another trief restaurant? And there's a mashgiach temidi? Why not?

NKS is also "too cheap" in that case. Are we saying that's also treif because it's cheap? Strange boich svara.

How would a mashgiach temidi help in this instance? The alleged wrongdoing would have taken place after hours, when the mashgiach wouldn't be on site.

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Re: Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2022, 02:33:20 PM »
How would a mashgiach temidi help in this instance? The alleged wrongdoing would have taken place after hours, when the mashgiach wouldn't be on site.
Which hachgocha would allow a non-Jewish owner to have keys to the restaurant?!?
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