Manalapan Kosher Chinese Express Owner Buying Non-Kosher Chicken

[imayid2]

you are forgetting about chana'n on the oil.

No he just enjoys talking in riddles

[aygart]

Gotcha.
Is a piece of chicken fried in gallons of oil considered to overpower the oil brov. I think that might be a complicated question.
Also still not sure for why it’s safek that there is ששים. We talking a fair amount of chicken here.

Pri megadim says an item can never be rov something else.

[jj1000]

Another idea, offer cash to all employees if they report with proof of the owner bringing in treif.

This should be made standard with all restaurants under hashgacha.

$5k if you show treif meats being used.

[imayid2]

No he just enjoys talking in riddles

אין הנאסר turns it into מין במינו where only rov is necessary מדאורייתא and he’s claiming a safek ששים.

[imayid2]

Pri megadim says an item can never be rov something else.

This makes sense. Can you provide the source when you have a chance please?

[imayid2]

Another idea, offer cash to all employees if they report with proof of the owner bringing in treif.

This should be made standard with all restaurants under hashgacha.

$5k if you show treif meats being used.

Local store here offers cash incentives for insects spotted in various items to the non Jewish employees.

[wayfe]

Lashon Hara, A OK, Halacha, get out!!!

Hey, I actually had 🔥🔥🔥 meme that would have really pissed some off, but I bit my tongue (fingers, whatever) because it wasn't actually helpful.

This is an important story to me. My son had a long-standing weekly appt. in Manalpan and each visit ended with a stop for Chinese... We have probably had this routine for the last 8 or so months. I was so distressed, I didn't sleep all Monday night. I have refreshed DansDeals a million times waiting for today's update.

In truth my request is probably a bit too late (only 24 pages) since the story is winding down.

[aygart]

Why is it a safek shishim?

The oil cannot be rov chicken. Rov of the taam chicken is of kosher chicken. Now it depends on ratios and include the amount of batter coating etc.

This is speculative.

[CountValentine]

Now you want this guy put in jail? I guess OK's failure is OK?

[imayid2]

Now you want this guy put in jail? I guess OK's failure is OK?

Huh?

[aygart]

This makes sense. Can you provide the source when you have a chance please?

Ben a while since I reviewed in enough detail to give sources though.

Over 15 years probably 20

[Dan]

Now you want this guy put in jail? I guess OK's failure is OK?

Employee robs a bank over 6 months and the guard doesn't catch him.
Who goes to jail?

[imayid2]

The oil cannot be rov chicken. Rov of the taam chicken is of kosher chicken. Now it depends on ratios and include the amount of batter coating etc.

This is speculative.

If there was no ששים on any specific frying, it’s going to be חנן, and that can’t be fixed by more kosher chicken coming in.
Can it?

[CountValentine]

Employee robs a bank over 6 months and the guard doesn't catch him.
Who goes to jail?

Did I miss part of the story?

[yitzgar]

Now you want this guy put in jail? I guess OK's failure is OK?

Of course. He is a gentile and they are Jews (just feeding the trolls)...

[jj1000]

Now you want this guy put in jail? I guess OK's failure is OK?

Would love to see it all investigated.

But the owners admission of intent to sell non-kosher as kosher clearly violated NJ state law.

No one said the ok is ok afaik.

Do you think nothing should happen to the owner because of this?

[jj1000]

Did I miss part of the story?

Read this? https://www.dansdeals.com/more/news/ok-kosher-releases-results-investigation-failures-kosher-chinese-express/

[CountValentine]

Would love to see it all investigated.

But the owners admission of intent to sell kosher as not kosher clearly violated NJ state law.

No one said the ok is ok afaik.

Do you think nothing should happen to the owner because of this?

Go to jail, no.
I am not defending what he is accused of. This is a major overreaction.
OK is involved in this. Are you ok with them investigating themselves?

[Yehuda57]

Now you want this guy put in jail? I guess OK's failure is OK?

I seem to recall your position in people breaking criminal fraud laws being, "law is the law" and breaking the law is liable for punishment.

Are you softening your stance for this guy?

[CountValentine]

Read this? https://www.dansdeals.com/more/news/ok-kosher-releases-results-investigation-failures-kosher-chinese-express/

WOW, just stereotyped ever non-Jew out there with the second sentence.