Author Topic: NY Times vs. Chassidim  (Read 127483 times)

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I cannot believe that story. his father is actually a languages professor, actively involved in publishing some of Chabad flagship material for children in English.
does he expect me to believe he never read the Moshiach Times?
Yaffed promotes these false narratives. I don't know what this person experienced, but they encourage framing the experiences this way. I personally know a story where a woman became unreligious and actually went around describing her marriage to her modern, un-Yeshivish, movie-going husband as a forced arranged marriage to a backward Hassidic person.

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https://twitter.com/hasidica/status/1570054619870687234
What makes these self-hating Jews think that G-d forbid there is a next-time-around, concentration camps will differentiate between religious and non-religious Jews? Why, even the Kappos didn't have any better survival rate.
(Sorry for being harsh.. but as a visit to the basement of the Holocaust museum in DC can show you, it all started from the newspapers)

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I think you went past harsh.
As did the NYT

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As mentioned, the largest Chabad boys' school in CH has ZERO secular studies.

Is that school a recipient of public funds, and if yes, how much?

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Is that school a recipient of public funds, and if yes, how much?
Regardless, send your kids there, go to jail (pass go, get 2 free Mets tickets)

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Is that school a recipient of public funds, and if yes, how much?

No clue. I can say with confidence that if they removed public funding it would not affect the curriculum in the slightest

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Is that school a recipient of public funds, and if yes, how much?

Lunch programs and possibly bussing.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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What makes these self-hating Jews think that G-d forbid there is a next-time-around, concentration camps will differentiate between religious and non-religious Jews? Why, even the Kappos didn't have any better survival rate.
(Sorry for being harsh.. but as a visit to the basement of the Holocaust museum in DC can show you, it all started from the newspapers)
כי איככה אוכל וראיתי ברעה אשר ימצא את עמי ואיככה אוכל וראיתי באבדן מולדתי
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Just glanced at it. These are Jews?
Seems you have inhouse problems you need to solve first.  ;)

A good line I just heard from someone, " Eliza Shapiro, Brian M. Rosenthal and Jonah Markowitz are obviously no Irishmen".

Historically we suffered a lot from those who left the house with a door bang strong enough to destroy it.

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They study for them?
Yes

If you would know his family, and the school in question, your statement would be even stronger. I have no idea what his personal story is, but knowing some of his siblings, he comes from a family of highly talented, intelligent, and successful people.
For example, a sibling of his being product manager for multiple fantastic apps.

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Fact checking is usually done by consulting a different source to try to verify information you gave - either another person or a written source.  This is not a fine-toothed review as a teacher might do on a term paper, and doesn't eliminate all inaccuracies but tries to minimize them.

When they're made aware of errors, they acknowledge some of them in a subsequent paper, usually things like names or dates.  Today for the first time I see a correction in a crossword puzzle clue.
https://www.nytimes.com/section/corrections
I was also surprised by this, not only because they don't want you to demand change, but also because they don't want to be scooped on their scoop, as happened here.  The pre-pub critiques said things like "They will probably say..." and elsewhere I read that they were sent an outline, so it's not clear how detailed that draft was.  One tweet that included the message from the reporter said it was to give the recipient a chance to add info, can't remember where I saw that.

Fact checks include a second party verifying that an included quote is in fact real, along with ensuring that there are no inconsistencies in the interviewees’ story. Most times this should have been done but wasn’t.
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/ny-times-report-aclu-reaction-report-hasidic-schools-spark-fierce-debate
To make this about race is foolish. If he (ACLU) has an issue about funding, then address it and don't race bait.
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I can't fathom to understand how some people read "The Veker" coming from the same people behind this Yiddish NYT article.
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