Author Topic: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher  (Read 23107 times)

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #260 on: September 22, 2022, 01:00:49 PM »
why does every thread that cv posts in get turned into an argument instead of a conversation?

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #261 on: September 22, 2022, 01:01:04 PM »
We are looking for things to argue about, but we simply cannot find.
no fun!
I am confident we will chance upon other opportunities :)

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #262 on: September 22, 2022, 01:02:31 PM »
The forum needs proud bigots.
The forum needs a woke mob
Jews ≠ Zionists
Palestinians ≠ Hamas
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #263 on: September 22, 2022, 01:22:14 PM »
why does every thread that cv posts in get turned into an argument instead of a conversation?
Some of us call out racism, antisemitism, bigotry and many other things no matter where it comes from. Remain silent and it only gets worse.

I guess you are ok with calling humans "it", using slurs or posting pictures of their family including a baby?

This thread could have exposed the person without all the hatred!!!
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #264 on: September 22, 2022, 01:46:46 PM »
An awful byproduct of the political discourse is that "triggering" others has become a celebrated midah for many. Even if facts don't care about your feelings, how we speak about those facts, or if we need to even bring them up, should absolutely care about other's feelings.
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #265 on: September 22, 2022, 02:02:38 PM »
I think one can clearly state their opinion without using slurs or losing sight that even those we disagree with are still human beings. Or to put it another way, I can see a fair perspective that someone might choose to use the other individuals birth pronoun, despite the fact that the other individual doesn't want you to.

There's a far cry from that to actively using a slur.
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #266 on: September 22, 2022, 02:07:50 PM »
I think in general ddf has a nice balanced tone. My dw sometimes goes on a frum woman forum and the tone is really toxic.

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #267 on: September 22, 2022, 03:53:49 PM »
I guess you can call me transphobic

"Educating yourself about transgender rights, gender identity issues, and how to respect transgender people is the best way to fight against transphobia."

https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-is-transphobia
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #268 on: September 22, 2022, 03:59:20 PM »
I guess you can call me transphobic

"Educating yourself about transgender rights, gender identity issues, and how to respect transgender people is the best way to fight against transphobia."

https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-is-transphobia

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #269 on: September 22, 2022, 04:04:10 PM »
I guess you can call me transphobic
Transphobic, racist, bigot, antisemite and a hundred other names. As @imayid2 would say "different but equal".
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #270 on: September 22, 2022, 04:06:52 PM »
It was a SCOTUS decision that has yet to be overturned, that alone is enough to render the idea as absolutely moral according to some here :)

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #271 on: September 22, 2022, 04:09:05 PM »
It was a SCOTUS decision that has yet to be overturned, that alone is enough to render the idea as absolutely moral according to some here :)
What SCOTUS decision?
You have in the past invoked SCOTUS cases when it has no bearing on what we were talking about.  :)
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #272 on: September 22, 2022, 04:10:56 PM »
What SCOTUS decision?
You have in the past invoked SCOTUS cases when it has no bearing on what we were talking about.  :)
I deny the charge.
Separate but equal has technically not been overruled. It was found to be unequal in certain cases.

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #273 on: September 22, 2022, 04:13:28 PM »
I deny the charge.
Wisconsin v. Yoder
Separate but equal has technically not been overruled. It was found to be unequal in certain cases.

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #274 on: September 22, 2022, 04:20:20 PM »
Wisconsin v. Yoder
No, many of the points there apply here as well.
And you can invoke pretzels all you want, it’s 100% true. Remember, you wholeheartedly support stares…
So…. Who’s a pretzel?  :)

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #275 on: September 22, 2022, 04:20:28 PM »

Everyone likes being Pinchas on the internet

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #276 on: September 22, 2022, 04:21:14 PM »
I knew we could find something  :)

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #277 on: September 22, 2022, 04:22:03 PM »
And you can invoke pretzels all you want, it’s 100% true. Remember, you wholeheartedly support stares…
So…. Who’s a pretzel?  :)
Didn't you say at one point it didn't apply to NTY article/case?
ETA:
Especially as we are talking about elementary school when WVY was about High School.
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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #278 on: September 22, 2022, 04:26:12 PM »
Didn't you say at one point it didn't apply to NTY article/case?
Not directly. It would have to be based on some common points. (The Yoder case didn’t specify preclude such a case.) This is compounded by the fact that the NY regulations aren’t blatant violation of Jewish law. Yet. It is certainly the starting point for any litigation as per the attorneys involved.

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Re: Yeshiva Magen David Accidentally Hires Trans Teacher
« Reply #279 on: September 22, 2022, 04:43:40 PM »
Everyone likes being Pinchas on the internet

I don't know who you are, but I'd love to throw potato salad at you in person! Though my IRL persona is much, much, quieter. This is all internet beitzim