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ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?

Im a provider and i really feel accomplished with my work
Im on the receiving end and i benefited alot
Im a provider and its meant for dogs
Im on the receiving end and its meant for dogs or dolphins

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ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« on: September 20, 2022, 11:51:02 PM »
ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
I think its both, like many things in life
For those that are not familiar with ABA, They noticed that just like we can train dogs and see loins to behave in a certain way to get rewarded even though they dont have the capacity to think whats right and wrong we can do the same with autistic children


So in my opinion ABa is both for autistic children it's great and in certain circumstances other children can also benefit from it


But you need to be very careful before you sign up for it if its not needed they can screw up like no tomorrow and you're left with the child and they move on


Being that many insurances cover ABA for children that are ASD (autistic syndrome disorder) and asd covers a wide range of symptoms which makes it almost impossible for someone to prove it right or wrong unless you do an intensive test these agencies run around to schools and ask for cases and its a real nisoyon for the school not to give over anyone that is a drop out of the box which in normal cases wouldn't make you think about therapy and in such case it really depends what kind of BCBA you get, and i don't want to expand on this.


What was your experience?
Are you a provider or a receiver?

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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2022, 12:09:03 AM »
The benefit of any services will depend on the organization and individuals providing that service. In my experience I’ve had providers who were stellar at their job and went above and beyond, and providers who made it obvious (by what they did and didn’t say/do) that they were only in it for the money. There were also providers who did only what their job entailed, but nothing further.

The statement above is about both ABA services and other such insurance/government-funded services for children. I’m not sure my experiences with ABA services were representative of the system.
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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2022, 10:52:47 PM »
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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2023, 05:24:37 PM »
You gotta make a real thought-out decision as being enrolled in this program-therapy as a child,It may many times have repercussions later on in life, for example not getting a good job or getting approved for a mortgage or in bad cases if this child lands in family court over this already grown up child's kids later in his life the other side is a definite winner so act with caution before signing up your kids to this therapy.

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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2023, 05:36:02 PM »
You gotta make a real thought-out decision as being enrolled in this program-therapy as a child,It may many times have repercussions later on in life, for example not getting a good job or getting approved for a mortgage or in bad cases if this child lands in family court over this already grown up child's kids later in his life the other side is a definite winner so act with caution before signing up your kids to this therapy.
For real? This seems really far fetched

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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2023, 06:16:18 PM »
For real? This seems really far fetched
well if you're on the spectrum.....
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ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2023, 08:13:32 PM »
well if you're on the spectrum.....
Can’t the child outgrow it..

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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2023, 12:26:49 AM »
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Officially, the Answer Is "No"
According to the DSM-5 (the diagnostic manual that currently describes mental and developmental disorders in the United States and many other nations), the answer is no, it is not possible to grow out of autism.1
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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2023, 01:55:05 AM »
first Google result

Officially, the Answer Is "No"
According to the DSM-5 (the diagnostic manual that currently describes mental and developmental disorders in the United States and many other nations), the answer is no, it is not possible to grow out of autism.1
But it's possible to learn techniques that help him interact with the world in a more mainstream manner.
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Re: ABA Therapy is it good or terrible?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2023, 10:55:52 PM »
ABA at its core utilizes an approach called "operant conditioning". The same approach is used to train animals, including dogs, dolphins, and all sorts of show/circus animals.

ABA at its inception used pretty horrific techniques including famously "shock therapy". And those techniques carried on for a while.

ABA was introduced at a time when most clients were institutionalized. ABA was definitely an improvement over institutions.

 The person providing the therapy usually has only a high school diploma, and occasionally they have taken a 30-hour course (required in some states, not all). These RBTs, or "techs", are supervised by someone who has a master's degree and license (BCBA, Board Certified Behavior Analyst).

ABA at its core focuses solely on "behaviors", hence the name "Applied Behavior Analysis". The happiness of the client is not necessarily the priority (though there are instances where it can be).

Absent alternative effective approaches, I can understand the pros of ABA. When considering there are alternative EFFECTIVE approaches, ABA begins to look really cruel.

Unfortunately, insurances are slow to adapt to this, and therefore ABA  becomes the default option because it is widely covered. The coverage for alternative approaches is still in its infancy (there are ABA clinics that masquerade as play-based approaches. Or is it the other way around?)

Please fact check anything I posted. I welcome any debate on this subject.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2023, 11:45:27 PM by dealfinder11 »