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[Yehuda57]

That would make it worse, no?

More complicated to cancel, that's what I'm saying. If you want to say the two cases are analogous as to their bigotry, (I'm not sure they are, but I'll go with it) you can't compare canceling a contract to forcing someone to sell something they own, which was a complicated legal battle which could have been prolonged by Sterling had he been willing to fight it more.

[Yehuda57]

Adidas probably should've done it faster but if I'm in their shoes I would try to find any possible way to keep it going instead of discontinuing billions in business.

The whole question is whether or not we should be in their shoes

[jj1000]

TMZ released the recording on April 25, on April 29 the NBA announced a lifetime ban and $2.5m fine. The very next day the team was already discussing boycotting a playoff game. It took less than a month for them to announce they figured out how to get him to sell the team, and by May 29 the Balmer deal was done.

As I mentioned IMO the nail in the coffin was the podcast when he said "The thing about it being Adidas is like, I can literally say antisemitic s*** and they cannot drop me,"

That was 5 days ago.

Until then there was a whole mental health defense going on.

[yuneeq]

The whole question is whether or not we should be in their shoes

Figuratively or literally? As in boycott, or as in they shouldn't have had a deal with kanye to begin with?

[Yehuda57]

We are talking a week or so vs 3 weeks or so, and the most recent comments were even less time that that...

It's a very myopic view to hold the few weeks it took to make this decision against adidas IMO. The fact that they did it should be celebrated.

Everything has reasons it takes some time, to drop 10% of total sales in under a month is incredible to me.

I don't see any reason to compare this case to what if someone else said xyz, how long would that take. He has said very anti-black stuff before like slavery was a choice and he wasn't dropped until now.

Plus you take into account the mentally ill defense, is he having a breakdown etc. I think this time frame was impressive when you look at the big picture.

I'm not saying we should hold it against them. I didn't realize how big their deal was when Kanye said "Adidas can't drop me". It's a huge deal that they dropped him, and it was relatively quick.

As for the mental breakdown part of it:

https://twitter.com/Squilled/status/1578975700354498560

I don't think people realize how dangerous someone like Kanye saying these things is. The people who beat up Jews on the streets of NY do it for the reasons he is speaking about, and he is the kind of person they listen to.

[Yehuda57]

Figuratively or literally? As in boycott, or as in they shouldn't have had a deal with kanye to begin with?

'twas just an attempt at a joke

[jj1000]

I'm not saying we should hold it against them. I didn't realize how big their deal was when Kanye said "Adidas can't drop me". It's a huge deal that they dropped him, and it was relatively quick.

As for the mental breakdown part of it:

I don't think people realize how dangerous someone like Kanye saying these things is. The people who beat up Jews on the streets of NY do it for the reasons he is speaking about, and he is the kind of person they listen to.

I don't disagree, it's just that, if he had an acute breakdown and he would apologize a week later, he never would have gotten cancelled. It was the doubling down that did him in (IMO), and it's been 5 days since then.

[CountValentine]

More complicated to cancel, that's what I'm saying. If you want to say the two cases are analogous as to their bigotry, (I'm not sure they are, but I'll go with it) you can't compare canceling a contract to forcing someone to sell something they own, which was a complicated legal battle which could have been prolonged by Sterling had he been willing to fight it more.

Don't want to get into the bigotry scale. My point being that taking a team away is much more of a penalty.

Now the question is will another shoe company step in or KW goes it on his own?

[jj1000]

My point being that taking a team away is much more of a penalty.

That's debatable.

Now the question is will another shoe company step in or KW goes it on his own?

No major US based on German based brand will. That's for sure.

[CountValentine]

No major US based on German based brand will. That's for sure.

Why not? He repents and says it was his mental illness.

[Euclid]

Why not? He repents and says it was his mental illness.

He doesn't want to be on medication (Kim Kardashian said this when she was divorcing him) so I doubt he'll ever find his senses

[jj1000]

Why not? He repents and says it was his mental illness.

I assumed we weren't changing the facts on the ground.

If he donates the next 10 years revenue to the ADL then adidas takes him back.

[Yehuda57]

Don't want to get into the bigotry scale. My point being that taking a team away is much more of a penalty.

Now the question is will another shoe company step in or KW goes it on his own?

I definitely don't want to get into the who is a bigger bigot war, but the nature of the statements is entirely different. One was leaked private conversations, and one was spouting a kind of ideological bigotry by an uber-influential figure.

I agree, taking the team away was definitely bigger.

[Yehuda57]

https://twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1584786388729311232

Look at the replies to this.

[TimT]

As I mentioned IMO the nail in the coffin was the podcast when he said "The thing about it being Adidas is like, I can literally say antisemitic s*** and they cannot drop me,"

I don’t believe this to be the case.

[TimT]

I wasn’t following this from the beginning, did Adidas issue any statement condemning him prior to today ?

[ExGingi]

Am I the only one that upon seeing the title of this thread thought it had something to do with @Dan's "love" for AA? (or is memory betraying me and it was some other name?)

[Moshe Green]

I wasn’t following this from the beginning, did Adidas issue any statement condemning him prior to today ?

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[Dan]

Am I the only one that upon seeing the title of this thread thought it had something to do with @Dan's "love" for AA? (or is memory betraying me and it was some other name?)

Oooh! Was hoping this thread was a follow up of the Ye Mandel story....

[ExGingi]

I guess I missed it because I was reading the thread תיקון ליל שבועות style. Beginning and end only.