Author Topic: Comma 3 OpenPilot  (Read 5345 times)

Online Alexsei

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 7029
  • Total likes: 2803
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
    • Travel & Kivrei Zadikim
  • Location: Chinada/Canadstan/Crussia/North Kanada
  • Programs: COVID-25
Re: Comma.ai
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2022, 08:57:29 AM »
Google "accidents with comma.ai"

I think there's a misconception here, I don't see why comma should be any more responsible than any of the semi smart driving features included now days like Honda Sense, my Honda would cause an accident every day if I had no hands on the wheel, perhaps people get to trust the device more than they should.
vemeredenuchyontif

Offline AMH

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2022
  • Posts: 547
  • Total likes: 594
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: UA Platinum,Star Alliance Gold, Avis President's Club, Hertz President's circle, Europcar privilege Elite, Marriot Gold
Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2023, 03:49:58 AM »
Does anyone here have it?

What are the reviews?

👆 אהבת חינם

Offline AMH

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2022
  • Posts: 547
  • Total likes: 594
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: UA Platinum,Star Alliance Gold, Avis President's Club, Hertz President's circle, Europcar privilege Elite, Marriot Gold
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2023, 08:17:46 AM »
Does it work that much better then the standard systems that come in all the new cars?
👆 אהבת חינם

Offline YitzyS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 6348
  • Total likes: 16576
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 34
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood, NJ
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2023, 08:35:44 AM »

Offline AMH

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2022
  • Posts: 547
  • Total likes: 594
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Programs: UA Platinum,Star Alliance Gold, Avis President's Club, Hertz President's circle, Europcar privilege Elite, Marriot Gold
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2023, 08:58:55 AM »
Thanks
👆 אהבת חינם

Online moko

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 5149
  • Total likes: 2180
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: BOS
Re: Comma.ai
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2023, 12:33:43 PM »
    I've been using Comma 3/ Open Pilot on my 2021 Palisade for about a month.
    Some thoughts....

Installation - you don't need to be a mechanic, tech wizard, or super handy for the hardware install but might be difficult for someone with two left hands. There are several install videos available. Removing the mirror trim is fairly simple and there's ample space to stock the splitter. Running the cable behind the headliner is easy and can be done with your fingers (even my fat fingers). The side trim is a bit more difficult but I had no issue using a metal credit card (thanks DD) instead of a trim puller.
Downloading the basic open pilot software is simple. Simply enter the URL and press install. Be careful installing forks. Make sure to read all the data. Installing non compatible forks , such as forks for a Comma 2, can brick your device. (Can be repaired by flashing the device). I'm currently using one of the sunnypilot forks, more on that later.
As far as the difference between openpilot and the vehicles stock ADAS, that obviously depends on the vehicle and any forks installed.
I chose my new vehicle based on my frequent rentals. The choice came down to price, comfort, reliability, and track record but also the cars stock ADAS. Based solely on the stock ADAS, I would have bought a BMW, Caddilac, or Ford with Blue (super) Cruise, available standard on F series trucks, Expedition and other models.  (Jeeps has some pretty good SUVs but the stock ADAS is trash in my opinion and not very compatible with openpilot- if this matters to you, check the open pilot website for at least explaining the levels of compatibility)
As another user explained it very succinctly, with the cars stock ADAS the car assists you in driving. With openpilot, you assist the car in driving.
Adding navigation either through a Comma connect subscription ($9.99 monthly) or with a free mapbox account (only available with some forks - not stock OpenPilot) is crucial.
You will need some sort of internet connection either with a SIM card and premium Comma connect subscription or hot spot from your phone.
After playing around with experimental mode and some of the other toggle features, I'm at a point the the car drive it self on highways including changing lanes (you still need to turn on your signal unless it's getting ready for an exit and then it will usually change lanes it self.) , taking most exits, stop and go traffic etc. while the stock ADAS mostly relies on sensors and radar to slow/stop the vehicle, sunnypilot has an option for visual braking (based on the e path it's plotting) and even map based braking. It will automatically slow down for curves based on the map and cameras.
Another point regarding it's limitations. It won't mimic your aggressive driving even when set for “aggressive” (yes, there is an option for that)
It does recognize many (most?) stop signs and traffic lights but it's far from foolproof. For instance if traffic light or stop sign is around a bend , it likely won't stop. There are also random stop signs that, for whatever reason, it doesn't see. I've seen a significant difference between highway, suburban road driving and tight city driving. It definitely isn’t cut out for city driving.
Is it worth it? If you do significant highway driving, especially long distance, definitely. Driver tension is gone once you get used to trusting it. You arrive completely different. Just make sure not to verify rely on it.
We really enjoy the Palisade and this makes long drives significantly easier.
We still have a 2013 Sienna but have chosen to use this for recent family trips. Obviously cargo space is an issue which we solved  with a 500lb capacity folding cargo hitch basket well as a roof basket. (It also has a tow package if we ever wanted to use it)




Online moko

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 5149
  • Total likes: 2180
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: BOS
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2023, 01:52:43 PM »

Online Alexsei

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 7029
  • Total likes: 2803
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
    • Travel & Kivrei Zadikim
  • Location: Chinada/Canadstan/Crussia/North Kanada
  • Programs: COVID-25
Re: Comma.ai
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2023, 02:28:41 PM »
My biggest issue is that I'll still have to deal with my Odyssey's torque limit
vemeredenuchyontif

Online moko

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 5149
  • Total likes: 2180
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: BOS
Re: Comma.ai
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2023, 03:41:44 PM »
My biggest issue is that I'll still have to deal with my Odyssey's torque limit
which I'm finding that is an issue on more vehicles than they claim.  Somewhat of an issue on tight 90° turns in city driving.
Also, I forgot my biggest gripe .. apparently there's a safety setting from Hyundai which disengaged openpilot maintaining speed when you press the brake.
N the stock ADAS is even worse. It disengages all ADAS including lane centering, auto brake, and steering.
If a developer releases a fork that  overrides what's deemed a safety issue, they get banned. I believe that's the torque issue with Honda as well.

Online Alexsei

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 7029
  • Total likes: 2803
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
    • Travel & Kivrei Zadikim
  • Location: Chinada/Canadstan/Crussia/North Kanada
  • Programs: COVID-25
Re: Comma.ai
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2023, 03:44:59 PM »
which I'm finding that is an issue on more vehicles than they claim.  Somewhat of an issue on tight 90° turns in city driving.
Also, I forgot my biggest gripe .. apparently there's a safety setting from Hyundai which disengaged openpilot maintaining speed when you press the brake.
N the stock ADAS is even worse. It disengages all ADAS including lane centering, auto brake, and steering.
If a developer releases a fork that  overrides what's deemed a safety issue, they get banned. I believe that's the torque issue with Honda as well.
I understood it's hardware for the odyssey
vemeredenuchyontif

Online jackofall

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 785
  • Total likes: 51
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2025, 11:54:53 AM »
Selling a used Comma 3X for $500
If you focus on being a boss, you will never be a leader. Leaders lead people to growth and improvement.

Offline Yo ssi

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Aug 2019
  • Posts: 7790
  • Total likes: 3266
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 66
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2025, 08:46:40 PM »
Selling a used Comma 3X for $500
I'm curious why
_    ,
' )  /
 /  / __   _   _   o
(__/_(_)  /_)_/_)_<_
 //
(/

Offline justaregularguy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Sep 2014
  • Posts: 1920
  • Total likes: 1889
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Not Brooklyn
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2025, 08:51:15 PM »
There is some discussion of this on another thread. I have it on my Highlander and love it.
Selling a used Comma 3X for $500
I'm curious why
+1
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

Online jackofall

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 785
  • Total likes: 51
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2025, 11:19:59 PM »
New car. with supper cruise
If you focus on being a boss, you will never be a leader. Leaders lead people to growth and improvement.

Online aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 20K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 20368
  • Total likes: 17558
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2025, 06:32:33 PM »
how can i tell if it will work with a newer car?
Feelings don't care about your facts

Online moko

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 5149
  • Total likes: 2180
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: BOS
Re: Comma 3 OpenPilot
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2025, 07:57:05 PM »
how can i tell if it will work with a newer car?
likely won't. They seem to have stopped building updated and harnesses and the last major update for sunny pilot is about a year old. Also, they got rid of navigation with no warning. not sure it holds value with its downgrade and the adas upgrades of newer vehicles