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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #180 on: December 02, 2022, 11:55:06 AM »
Again, what does he mean by quoting "I know who I am"?
I answered this, but you have not. What does it mean to you?
"I know who I am" is talking about the racism they endured.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #181 on: December 02, 2022, 12:01:05 PM »
I answered this, but you have not. What does it mean to you?

Kyrie is speaking about the racism he endured as some sort of explanation or the like of his antisemitism?

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #182 on: December 02, 2022, 12:03:21 PM »
The problem we have with LeBron is that he is comparing different things... He should compare the Robert Sarver issue to Kyrie because those are both basketball.  Also he says that "the media" covers the story differently, but "the media" is who uncovered this story to begin with. It was discovered by the Washington Post, so his claim that African Americans are treated differently whgen they do something wrong, is not factually correct. (based on what he is bringing up, we are not discussing the issue in general)
African Americans are treated differently when they do something wrong is not factually correct? Are you serious or are you limiting that statement to this one specific situation?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #183 on: December 02, 2022, 12:04:52 PM »
Kyrie is speaking about the racism he endured as some sort of explanation or the like of his antisemitism?
Are you asking what it means to Kyrie or LBJ?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #184 on: December 02, 2022, 12:09:05 PM »
Are you asking what it means to Kyrie or LBJ?

If it is different, then both. Why did LBJ use that quote? If it's because of racism Kyrie endured, is he saying that the whole controversy is born of that? This wasn't an off-the-cuff statement to answer a question. He planned this beforehand.

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #185 on: December 02, 2022, 12:09:28 PM »
treated differently when they do something wrong

Where did this come in from?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #186 on: December 02, 2022, 12:12:11 PM »
Where did this come in from?
so his claim that African Americans are treated differently whgen they do something wrong, is not factually correct.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #187 on: December 02, 2022, 12:20:10 PM »
"I know who I am" is talking about the racism they endured.
When Kyrie said “I know who I am” it was being used in a Kanye-like anti-Semitic way. He said “If I know who I am I cannot be an anti-Semite”.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #188 on: December 02, 2022, 12:51:14 PM »
When Kyrie said “I know who I am” it was being used in a Kanye-like anti-Semitic way. He said “If I know who I am I cannot be an anti-Semite”.
You know who you are, correct? You know if you are racist or not.

The issue is they need to be asked direct questions.They should have asked Ye what good things has "H" done.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #189 on: December 02, 2022, 12:56:04 PM »

Missed that. In general that is way off. If it is qualified as only discriminatory statements he may be right.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #190 on: December 02, 2022, 12:56:42 PM »
You know who you are, correct? You know if you are racist or not.

The issue is they need to be asked direct questions.They should have asked Ye what good things has "H" done.
Kyrie was asked very direct questions... He was asked point blank, are you anti-semitic and he answered with "I know who I am" instead of just saying "No" All he had to do was say "No" but he refused to say that at first

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #191 on: December 02, 2022, 01:22:06 PM »
You know who you are, correct? You know if you are racist or not.

The issue is they need to be asked direct questions.They should have asked Ye what good things has "H" done.
C’mon man. Go watch what he said again, he was avoiding the question of “Are you an anti-Semite?” by saying “I cannot be an anti-Semite”. He was trying to insinuate that he is a Semite.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #192 on: December 02, 2022, 01:24:42 PM »
Kyrie was asked very direct questions... He was asked point blank, are you anti-semitic and he answered with "I know who I am" instead of just saying "No" All he had to do was say "No" but he refused to say that at first
He was being hounded. Many would react the same way and not answer the question. Just asking the question has a slant of guilt.
Example: Did you beat your wife today?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #193 on: December 02, 2022, 01:26:17 PM »
He was being hounded. Many would react the same way and not answer the question. Just asking the question has a slant of guilt.
Example: Did you beat your wife today?
Was this your position when Trump didn’t answer if he denounces white supremacists directly at a debate?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #194 on: December 02, 2022, 01:28:33 PM »
He was being hounded. Many would react the same way and not answer the question. Just asking the question has a slant of guilt.
Example: Did you beat your wife today?
not a good example... He knew these questions were coming. They have a PR team working with him, and he tweeted out a link to an anti-semetic movie, so Im pretty sure he saw these questions coming and was not hounded. Yes if someone comes to me out of the blue, with no reasonable reason at all, and asks if I beat my wife, then yes I would feel hounded

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #195 on: December 02, 2022, 01:36:19 PM »
Was this your position when Trump didn’t answer if he denounces white supremacists directly at a debate?
That he wanted their votes so didn't answer as to jeopardize that vote.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #196 on: December 02, 2022, 01:39:00 PM »
He was being hounded. Many would react the same way and not answer the question. Just asking the question has a slant of guilt.
Example: Did you beat your wife today?
Also he had a second media session 2 days after the first, with more time to think of his answers and not feel "hounded" and he still doubled down

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #197 on: December 02, 2022, 01:39:15 PM »
not a good example... He knew these questions were coming. They have a PR team working with him, and he tweeted out a link to an anti-semetic movie, so Im pretty sure he saw these questions coming and was not hounded. Yes if someone comes to me out of the blue, with no reasonable reason at all, and asks if I beat my wife, then yes I would feel hounded
You really think he thought his retweet would create this firestorm? They came down on him like a ton of bricks all at once.

The owner and NBA commissioner stated he is not antisemitic after meeting with him. Does that mean anything?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #198 on: December 02, 2022, 01:39:53 PM »
Also he had a second media session 2 days after the first, with more time to think of his answers and not feel "hounded" and he still doubled down
Point of no return. That is just who he is. Look at his covid stance.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #199 on: December 02, 2022, 01:49:05 PM »
You really think he thought his retweet would create this firestorm? They came down on him like a ton of bricks all at once.

The owner and NBA commissioner stated he is not antisemitic after meeting with him. Does that mean anything?
he tweeted on Saturday and was not questioned until Tuesday, he was well aware by them that he was going we to be asked about it. The Nets have a PR team and he was able to be very prepared. He was not hounded. He has a big ego and is stubborn.

I do not believe that he is anti-Semitic as well but that doesn’t justify his actions up until he finally apologized for tweeting the link