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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #120 on: November 21, 2022, 10:47:22 AM »
His people need to get him communication classes. He talks with such ambiguity and lack of clarity. No one ever knows wtf he's saying.
Maybe that is on purpose?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #121 on: November 21, 2022, 10:56:12 AM »
Maybe that is on purpose?

Yup. Be vague enough to say what you want to say without someone being able to pin anything on you. He hasn't come out and said, "I'm the real Jew, you guys are fake Jews who pray in the synagogue of Satan." But he says stuff like he can't be antisemitic if he "knows who he really is and can't hate himself".

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #122 on: November 21, 2022, 10:58:01 AM »
Yup. Be vague enough to say what you want to say without someone being able to pin anything on you. He hasn't come out and said, "I'm the real Jew, you guys are fake Jews who pray in the synagogue of Satan." But he says stuff like he can't be antisemitic if he "knows who he really is and can't hate himself".
He's good at dog whistling

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #123 on: November 21, 2022, 11:07:24 AM »
Yup. Be vague enough to say what you want to say without someone being able to pin anything on you. He hasn't come out and said, "I'm the real Jew, you guys are fake Jews who pray in the synagogue of Satan." But he says stuff like he can't be antisemitic if he "knows who he really is and can't hate himself".
Does he consider himself a Black Hebrew Israelite?
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #124 on: November 21, 2022, 12:25:56 PM »
Does he consider himself a Black Hebrew Israelite?

That's the thing, he hasn't said so definitively, but he links to their literature, says things that come from it, and vaguely says things that show that he is, but not explicitly enough to say so definitively.

They also clearly think he is one of them with the way they came out for him in full force

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #125 on: November 21, 2022, 12:56:24 PM »
That's the thing, he hasn't said so definitively, but he links to their literature, says things that come from it, and vaguely says things that show that he is, but not explicitly enough to say so definitively.

They also clearly think he is one of them with the way they came out for him in full force
Arent they Christian? He does ramadan

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2022, 12:58:14 PM »
Arent they Christian?
They're Jewish!

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #127 on: November 21, 2022, 01:02:55 PM »
Arent they Christian? He does ramadan
They're Jewish!

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A lot of them follow Judaism. This is one of the big groups: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commandment_Keepers
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #128 on: November 21, 2022, 01:09:14 PM »
Well he identifies as Muslim

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #129 on: November 21, 2022, 01:13:17 PM »
Well he identifies as Muslim
That makes sense.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #130 on: November 21, 2022, 01:20:21 PM »
I'm hardly an expert, but my guess is that Farrakhan's Islam and BHI's Christianity are about as close to their respective religions as "Messianic Judaism". So sure, he identifies as Muslim, but I'm guessing it's the NOI version, which seems to me to share a lot of messed up ideology with BHI.

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #131 on: November 21, 2022, 02:44:59 PM »
A lot of them follow Judaism. This is one of the big groups: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commandment_Keepers
the guys marching on Atlantic for him yesterday had christ on their sweaters

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #132 on: November 21, 2022, 03:12:50 PM »
the guys marching on Atlantic for him yesterday had Christ on their sweaters
Their are a ton of different sects.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #133 on: December 01, 2022, 11:33:34 AM »
https://twitter.com/michaelcorvoNBA/status/1598207202006749186

Not sure if this belongs here or in he DACOTY thread

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #134 on: December 01, 2022, 11:36:00 AM »
Not sure if this belongs here or in he DACOTY thread
We need a double standard thread.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #135 on: December 01, 2022, 11:43:22 AM »
We need a double standard thread.

Kyrie plays basketball, and is a marquee player in the league. Jerry Jones owns a team in another sport. Not quite the same....

Never mind that one incident is current, and the other occurred in 1957.
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #136 on: December 01, 2022, 11:46:35 AM »
Kyrie plays basketball, and is a marquee player in the league. Jerry Jones owns a team in another sport. Not quite the same....

Never mind that one incident is current, and the other occurred in 1957.
One-sided view as I expected.
How many black head coaches has Dallas had? How many black executives does Dallas have in the front office. What was Dallas stance on taking a knee? Who fought against the Rooney Rule? The list goes on and on. 
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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #137 on: December 01, 2022, 12:06:12 PM »
One-sided view as I expected.
How many black head coaches has Dallas had? How many black executives does Dallas have in the front office. What was Dallas stance on taking a knee? Who fought against the Rooney Rule? The list goes on and on.

I agree the Jerry Jones thing should be a bigger deal. If it is in the past and he isn't like that anymore, let him show that. He shouldn't be blacklisted (pun not intended) for something he did as a teenager, but his behavior as an adult can and should be examined.

But that has nothing to do with asking Lebron about a current NBA player, who also happens to be a former teammate and, by their own telling, a personal friend about racist statements made yesterday.

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #138 on: December 01, 2022, 12:09:52 PM »
This is the funniest thing ever
https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1597772406243721216

For context, there were absolutely busloads of rabbis that night in Crown Heights. It is the annual Kinus Hashluchim where there some 5000+ rabbis and 6800 people total at the banquet. The conference takes place over a few days in Crown Heights, and the banquet was Sunday night in Edison, NJ. dozens of busses went from Crown Heights on Sunday afternoon to NJ, at the same time the BHIs were marching from Grand Army Plaza to Barclays. Some of the busses likely passed GAP, but not Barclays.

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Re: Kyrie Irving Anti-Semitism
« Reply #139 on: December 01, 2022, 12:10:35 PM »
But that has nothing to do with asking Lebron about a current NBA player, who also happens to be a former teammate and, by their own telling, a personal friend about racist statements made yesterday.
LeBron was asked and commented many times about Colin Kaepernick. Why, he is not a basketball player? All I am pointing out is the question was a fair one based on Jones history.
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