Who is to blame for the poor midterm results for the R's?

[CountValentine]

Trump, policies, candidates or something else?

[efflpetzel]

make a poll

[jj1000]

How are you defining poor?

If they lose house and senate it's poor IMO.

[CountValentine]

How are you defining poor?

If they lose house and senate it's poor IMO.

So if they win both by 1 you would not call it a poor showing?
I going to try hard not to use the term Kool-Aid. 

[aygart]

So if they win both by 1 you would not call it a poor showing?

I would call that mediocre.

[CountValentine]

I would call that mediocre.

I would that sugarcoating. 
IIRC Trump lost like 40+ seats and BO 60+ in the midterms? Anyone know what the average would be?
ETA: Quick Google search says 30.
https://www.thoughtco.com/historical-midterm-election-results-4087704#:~:text=Modern%20midterm%20elections%20have%20resulted%20in%20an%20average,political%20party%20whose%20president%20occupies%20the%20White%20House.

[DealJew]

Trump is to blame for scaring away potential independant voters who dont like the radical right but agree with the policies.

[CountValentine]

Trump is to blame for scaring away potential independant voters who dont like the radical right but agree with the policies.

They didn't agree with his policies in 2018 or 2020. You need to open your eyes or expect the same results in 2024.

[aygart]

I would that sugarcoating. 

Call it what you wish, but when the polls going in had both houses close and they won one and not the other that sounds mediocre to me. What kind of result would you have called mediocre?

[CountValentine]

Call it what you wish, but when the polls going in had both houses close and they won one and not the other that sounds mediocre to me. What kind of result would you have called mediocre?

I think we are looking at this from different point of views. You are looking at it from the polls and I am looking at it from past midterm elections.

[Zevwolf]

Roe v. Wade

[CountValentine]

Roe v. Wade

If that is the case then should we expect the same in 2024?

[Moshe Green]

If that is the case then should we expect the same in 2024?

nah... its fresh now.

[CountValentine]

nah... its fresh now.

This is a big issue that will not fade.

[yeshivabucher]

If that is the case then should we expect the same in 2024?

i belive it will have an impact but i dont think it will be as impactful because it wont be fresh and people will realize that we are not living in the handmaids tale after all

[Sam 77]

Trump

[Moshe Green]

This is a big issue that will not fade.

it will because people will see that its not such a big deal in blue states to still have abortions...

[CountValentine]

it will because people will see that its not such a big deal in blue states to still have abortions...

The red states will keep passing more restrictions and it will be front page and the R's can't counter it.
What are the R's going to say? They can go to blue states to get an abortion? 

[fisherprice]

you can see from bidens campaign strategies the last while, that he was tying all republican policies to radical ultra maga trumpists agenda , and it clearly worked!

[Barryg]

If AZ and NV both stay/flip to R, does that still count as poor results for the red wave?