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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2022, 08:05:48 PM »
All I’ve heard so far was that everyone’s in agreement that it should be investigated as long as it’s SOP, which it’s not.

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2022, 08:09:36 PM »
All I’ve heard so far was that everyone’s in agreement that it should be investigated as long as it’s SOP, which it’s not.
Translation: but officer

It should be investigated, PERIOD!!! An American was killed by a foreign military. It needs to be investigated.

Saying they didn't do it in another case is the classic "but officer" pretzel.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2022, 08:12:42 PM »
Translation: but officer

It should be investigated, PERIOD!!! An American was killed by a foreign military. It needs to be investigated.

Saying they didn't do it in another case is the classic "but officer" pretzel.

As someone who always wants the law to be upheld, "but officer" is never a good answer. As someone who is against discrimination of any kind, "but officer" asks a very important question.
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2022, 08:14:18 PM »
All I’ve heard so far was that everyone’s in agreement that it should be investigated as long as it’s SOP, which it’s not.

You have the right to remain silent. Whatever you say will be taken as a pretzeled "but officer" excuse and might be used against you.

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2022, 08:16:12 PM »
As someone who always wants the law to be upheld, "but officer" is never a good answer. As someone who is against discrimination of any kind, "but officer" asks a very important question.
Ask any question you want. Ask if it is fair. Ask if it is selective enforcement.
Bottom line is should this be investigated? The answer for every American should be a resounding YES!!!
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2022, 08:23:59 PM »
Ask any question you want. Ask if it is fair. Ask if it is selective enforcement.
Bottom line is should this be investigated? The answer for every American should be a resounding YES!!!

Does the "why" matter? If it's being done without care for the results and just to put pressure on related parties, or if the conclusion isn't used for justice but just to further an agenda, is it still in the interests of the American people?
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2022, 08:29:29 PM »
Does the "why" matter? If it's being done without care for the results and just to put pressure on related parties, or if the conclusion isn't used for justice but just to further an agenda, is it still in the interests of the American people?
Everything matters. First and foremost is it needs to be investigated. This is an American that was killed. Why would any American not what that investigated? If the party in charge has their own agenda, then expose them for that. Don't use that as an excuse to say there should be no investigation.
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2022, 08:44:44 PM »
Everything matters. First and foremost is it needs to be investigated. This is an American that was killed. Why would any American not what that investigated? If the party in charge has their own agenda, then expose them for that. Don't use that as an excuse to say there should be no investigation.

I don't see anyone saying there shouldn't be investigations into the American deaths overseas. I see people questioning why this and why now. It doesn't seem to be the standard, regardless of your argument that it should be.

If LEO were only pulling over black drivers going over the speed limit, the narrative would correctly be about profiling, not on LEO doing what they should be doing by enforcing the speed limit. The latter becomes irrelevant in the big picture, with discrimination rightly being the focus of the story.
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2022, 08:49:33 PM »
I don't see anyone saying there shouldn't be investigations into the American deaths overseas.
So everyone agrees this should be investigated? Great, end of discussion!
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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2022, 08:50:42 PM »
So everyone agrees this should be investigated?
All I’ve heard so far was that everyone’s in agreement that it should be investigated as long as it’s SOP,

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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2022, 08:52:04 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2022, 08:54:41 PM »


Epic selfie! You should make it your avatar.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2022, 09:03:05 PM »
Epic selfish! You should make it your avatar.
This is like the conversations I use to have with an Arab co-worker. Terrorist bombings are wrong but...
I cut him off at the but. There is no but. You want to make a case what drove them to it, then that is a separate issue.

There needs to be an investigation, FULL STOP!!! You want to make the case this is not SOP then that is a separate issue.

I am sure someone is going to say I just compared the two.  ::)
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2022, 09:07:05 PM »
This is like the conversations I use to have with an Arab co-worker. Terrorist bombings are wrong but...
I cut him off at the but. There is no but. You want to make a case what drove them to it, then that is a separate issue.

There needs to be an investigation, FULL STOP!!! You want to make the case this is not SOP then that is a separate issue.

I am sure someone is going to say I just compared the two.  ::)
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2022, 09:13:34 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2022, 09:29:14 PM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-founder-jeff-bezos-to-give-most-of-his-money-to-charity-11668437278?mod=e2li

Sounds eerily similar to SBF...
He's trying to control the news cycle - he's laying off 10k employees this week.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/amazon-plans-lay-off-employees-report


Yes, I know he's not CEO anymore; but he's still the largest shareholder.

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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2022, 11:38:38 AM »
He's trying to control the news cycle - he's laying off 10k employees this week.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/amazon-plans-lay-off-employees-report


Yes, I know he's not CEO anymore; but he's still the largest shareholder.
i heard a story once of a successful supermarket owner who went to a Rav to ask him where's the best place to give the massive amounts of money he had to charity. The Rabbi responded that the biggest form of Tzedaka he could do is to lower the prices so poor people could save money and not be embarrassed about it.

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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2022, 12:29:21 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2022, 12:33:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/gantzbe/status/1592273311396171776
Shocking they would take that position.  :)
"tragic passing" that is a nice pretzel.
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