The hate just never ends, another mass killing.

[CountValentine]

Here is a real hero we can all be proud of. Not these fake hero's we get from every tragedy.

Colorado club shooting: Army veteran who stopped suspected gunman says 'everybody was a hero'
https://abcnews.go.com/US/colorado-club-shooting-hero-army-veteran-stopped-suspected/story?id=93759096

"Many have called Fierro a hero, a description he rejects, as he mourns the people who died, including his daughter's boyfriend."

[imayid2]

It’s a complicated subject. No need to obscure the truth. Just say you don’t quite understand it fully (I definitely do not). Focus on the heinous crime committed, the many grieving families, and leave the victims sins between them and G-d.

[randomjay]

5 dead and many more injured. None have been put to rest, but the thread is already trashed. Great job everyone! 

Just imagine how you feel when 5 murderer terrorists die in their safe house before their bodies are put to rest.

[imayid2]

Just imagine how you feel when 5 murderer terrorists die in their safe house before their bodies are put to rest.

Bad comparison.

[randomjay]

Bad comparison.

Not comparing, I am responding to CV argument about "bodies not put to rest" which adds noting to the conversation.

[randomjay]

This is like spitting on their graves.

Colorado Gay Bar Shooting: Suspect Aldrich Identifies as Non-Binary, Once Threatened Mother with Bomb
https://www.news18.com/news/world/colorado-gay-bar-shooting-suspect-aldrich-identifies-as-non-binary-once-threatened-mother-with-bomb-6450073.html

Why is this spitting?

[aygart]

This is like spitting on their graves.

Only if it was truly a hate crime. My understanding is that the motor was not yet determined.

[Dan]

Just imagine how you feel when 5 murderer terrorists die in their safe house before their bodies are put to rest.

[CountValentine]

Why is this spitting?

Only if it was truly a hate crime. My understanding is that the motor was not yet determined.

I am guilty of making that assumption.
The motor has been determined to be a hemi. 

[aygart]

I am guilty of making that assumption.
The motor has been determined to be a hemi. 

I understand the assumption and it is a reasonable first reaction.

[Yehuda57]

Just imagine how you feel when 5 murderer terrorists die in their safe house before their bodies are put to rest.

WTAF

[CountValentine]

Colorado Springs LGBTQ club 'shooter' barely able to speak in first court appearance
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/colorado-springs-lgbtq-club-shooter-barely-able-to-speak-in-first-court-appearance/ar-AA14toVM?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=bb69d8b6e2aa48f997a126900aebe2ca

[DaasTora]

It’s a complicated subject. No need to obscure the truth. Just say you don’t quite understand it fully (I definitely do not). Focus on the heinous crime committed, the many grieving families, and leave the victims sins between them and G-d.

So you disagree with the Rambam…..

[DaasTora]

So you disagree with the Rambam…..

I’m not saying that it should be discussed by laymen in a public forum but definitely food for thought.

[aygart]

I’m not saying that it should be discussed by laymen in a public forum but definitely food for thought.

While you go and create a discussion. Not seeing the daas

[imayid2]

So you disagree with the Rambam…..

Not sure what I said disagreed. It’s a heinous despicable crime. Loved ones are devastated and grieving. Mutar lach to emphasize with their pain.
 
רבינו גרשם sat shiva for his son who was an apostate for 14 days.
People who are killed may be different.

It’s a complicated subject.

[DaasTora]

While you go and create a discussion. Not seeing the daas

The word following daas can be interpreted in multiple ways….
As you please…

[aygart]

The word following daas can be interpreted in multiple ways….
As you please…

You mean the daas of an ox?

[DaasTora]

You mean the daas of an ox?

[aygart]

An ox will never shoot off its mouth.