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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #220 on: February 26, 2023, 11:07:06 PM »
How about a congress person siding with Palestine? Kick them out of congress.
Better yet how about siding with Russia over Ukraine and the US?
First one needs a definition.

Second one, I don't understand the question. Did someone skip reading the Constitution?

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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #221 on: February 27, 2023, 01:00:40 PM »
Is supporting a terror organization just a "divergent opinion on foreign affairs"?
That’s not black and white but definitely not “just a divergent opinion”. What do you think? Should someone who supports the JDL be allowed to serve in Congress? Assuming they were *elected by their American electorate* with those views widely known?

What terror organization did she support?
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #222 on: February 27, 2023, 01:02:36 PM »
Who supports a terrorist organization?
What terror organization did she support?
Inquiring minds want to know!!!
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #223 on: February 27, 2023, 01:07:40 PM »
Inquiring minds want to know!!!
In 2015, The Intercept published an investigative work by Ali Gharib and Eli Clifton, assisted in part by the work of independent researcher Joanne Stocker, indicating that Chu received $11,150 from the People's Mujahedin of Iran (MEK) between January 2009 and September 2012, when the MEK was listed a Foreign Terrorist Organization. She is an advocate of the MEK.

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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #224 on: February 27, 2023, 01:13:52 PM »
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you're definitely not a racist for calling it a duck.

Guys, do you want the USA to exist in an hundred years, or not?

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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #225 on: February 27, 2023, 01:40:11 PM »

So your standard is if an organization gives money to a candidate that means that candidate supports that organization?
I hope you are not serious.
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #226 on: February 27, 2023, 02:07:10 PM »
So your standard is if an organization gives money to a candidate that means that candidate supports that organization?
I hope you are not serious.
I do think if a candidate receives a large sum of money from a bad actor they should return the money
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #227 on: February 27, 2023, 02:09:00 PM »
I do think if a candidate receives a large sum of money from a bad actor they should return the money
I agree. Is 11k over three+ years a large sum?
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #228 on: February 27, 2023, 02:09:50 PM »

This the same organization?

In 2017, the year before John Bolton became President Trump's National Security Adviser, Bolton addressed members of the MEK and said that they would celebrate in Tehran before 2019.[260] By 2018, over 4,000 MEK members had entered Albania, according to the INSTAT data.[261]

By 2018, operatives of the MEK were believed to be still conducting covert operations inside Iran[262] to overthrow Iran's government.[263] Seymour Hersh reported that "some American-supported covert operations continue in Iran today," with the MEK's prime goal of removing the current Iranian government.[263]

On 30 June 2018, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump's personal lawyer, lectured an MEK gathering in Paris, calling for regime change in Tehran. John McCain and John Bolton and he have met the MEK's leader Maryam Rajavi or spoken at its rallies.[264][265]

During the Free Iran 2019 conference in Albania, Rudy Giuliani attended an MEK podium, where the former New York City mayor described the group as a "government-in-exile", saying it is a ready-to-go alternative to lead the country if the Iranian government falls.[266] Additionally, the Trump administration said it would not rule out the MEK as a viable replacement for the current Iranian regime.[267]
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #229 on: February 27, 2023, 02:11:41 PM »
I agree. Is 11k over three+ years a large sum?
I’m not sure. Depends how it was given.
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #230 on: February 27, 2023, 02:14:31 PM »
This the same organization?

In 2017, the year before John Bolton became President Trump's National Security Adviser, Bolton addressed members of the MEK and said that they would celebrate in Tehran before 2019.[260] By 2018, over 4,000 MEK members had entered Albania, according to the INSTAT data.[261]

By 2018, operatives of the MEK were believed to be still conducting covert operations inside Iran[262] to overthrow Iran's government.[263] Seymour Hersh reported that "some American-supported covert operations continue in Iran today," with the MEK's prime goal of removing the current Iranian government.[263]

On 30 June 2018, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump's personal lawyer, lectured an MEK gathering in Paris, calling for regime change in Tehran. John McCain and John Bolton and he have met the MEK's leader Maryam Rajavi or spoken at its rallies.[264][265]

During the Free Iran 2019 conference in Albania, Rudy Giuliani attended an MEK podium, where the former New York City mayor described the group as a "government-in-exile", saying it is a ready-to-go alternative to lead the country if the Iranian government falls.[266] Additionally, the Trump administration said it would not rule out the MEK as a viable replacement for the current Iranian regime.[267]
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #231 on: February 27, 2023, 02:53:24 PM »
This the same organization?

In 2017, the year before John Bolton became President Trump's National Security Adviser, Bolton addressed members of the MEK and said that they would celebrate in Tehran before 2019.[260] By 2018, over 4,000 MEK members had entered Albania, according to the INSTAT data.[261]

By 2018, operatives of the MEK were believed to be still conducting covert operations inside Iran[262] to overthrow Iran's government.[263] Seymour Hersh reported that "some American-supported covert operations continue in Iran today," with the MEK's prime goal of removing the current Iranian government.[263]

On 30 June 2018, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump's personal lawyer, lectured an MEK gathering in Paris, calling for regime change in Tehran. John McCain and John Bolton and he have met the MEK's leader Maryam Rajavi or spoken at its rallies.[264][265]

During the Free Iran 2019 conference in Albania, Rudy Giuliani attended an MEK podium, where the former New York City mayor described the group as a "government-in-exile", saying it is a ready-to-go alternative to lead the country if the Iranian government falls.[266] Additionally, the Trump administration said it would not rule out the MEK as a viable replacement for the current Iranian regime.[267]
What changed in 2012 that they stopped being listed as a terrorist organization?
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #232 on: February 27, 2023, 03:23:23 PM »
What changed in 2012 that they stopped being listed as a terrorist organization?
Good question. Maybe lobbying by Chu? ;)
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #233 on: February 27, 2023, 03:26:45 PM »
Good question. Maybe lobbying by Chu? ;)
...or R's started to get donations?  :)
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Re: Its Open Season on Minorities Master Thread!
« Reply #235 on: February 27, 2023, 03:48:50 PM »
https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/long-march-yellow/
In short, just naming them “a terrorist group” is dodging the fact that they were likely a legitimate organization and were eventually recognized as such by the US. Hence,
That’s not black and white but definitely not “just a divergent opinion”. What do you think? Should someone who supports the JDL be allowed to serve in Congress? Assuming they were *elected by their American electorate* with those views widely known?
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