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Do you still support Trump after he called for disbanding the constitution to put him in power?

YES
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #100 on: December 06, 2022, 12:45:10 AM »
They did when he was in office.
So your position is his words mattered when he was in office but don't now since he isn't president?
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #101 on: December 06, 2022, 01:09:17 AM »
So your position is his words mattered when he was in office but don't now since he isn't president?

The actual policies enacted always mattered more than the verbal sewage he doesn't stop spewing.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #102 on: December 06, 2022, 01:21:24 AM »
The actual policies enacted always mattered more than the verbal sewage he doesn't stop spewing.
That wasn't the question.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #103 on: December 06, 2022, 01:55:40 AM »
That wasn't the question.

The answer is that even when he was president his words didn't matter much as long as they didn't translate into meaningful action.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #104 on: December 06, 2022, 07:28:14 AM »
...and many died or were injured because of his words but you can pretend it never happened.

Many died or were injured is good for Joseph Stalin or the Unibomber. How many died? And of those injured how many? How? And to what degree?
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #105 on: December 06, 2022, 08:23:22 AM »
The answer is that even when he was president his words didn't matter much as long as they didn't translate into meaningful action.
You keep pretending that Jan 6 didn't happen where many died or were injured. Many have been convicted and went to jail as a result of this insurrection. This was a direct result of his words.

Like I said you can get a job defending Ye or Kyrie.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #106 on: December 06, 2022, 11:40:32 AM »
How many died? And of those injured how many? How? And to what degree?

This question seems to keep coming up, not sure if someone answered it before but according to (the famously reliable at face value ::)) Wikipedia & Google There were 5 deaths plus over 100 injuries plus rise in officer suicides immediately after plus damages etc. Part of the Wikipedia entry:
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Ashli Babbitt, an unarmed 35-year-old Air Force veteran, was fatally shot in the upper chest by Lt. Michael Leroy Byrd while attempting to climb through the shattered window of a barricaded door.[410]

Brian Sicknick, a 42-year-old responding Capitol Police officer, was pepper-sprayed during the riot and had two thromboembolic strokes the next day,[411][412] after which he was placed on life support[8] and soon died.[413][414] The D.C. chief medical examiner found he died from a stroke, classifying his death as natural,[415] and commenting that "all that transpired played a role in his condition".[416][417]

Rosanne Boyland, 34, died of an amphetamine overdose during the riot rather than, as was initially reported, from being trampled by other rioters after her collapse,[418] ruled accidental by the D.C. medical examiner's office.[22] Her mother, Cheryl Boyland, told NBC News, "She was not doing drugs. The only thing they found was her own prescription medicine."[419]

Kevin Greeson, 55, and Benjamin Philips, 50, died naturally from coronary heart disease and hypertensive heart disease.[22]

Some rioters[l] and 138 police officers (73 Capitol Police and 65 Metropolitan Police) were injured,[25] of whom 15 were hospitalized, some with severe injuries.[26] All had been released from the hospital by January 11.[421]

Perhaps if someone wants to dig in to the details of what this is actually comprised of they can do that on the 1/6 thread?

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2022, 11:10:56 PM »
Here is a guy, unlike many here that will not support Trump. Geoff Duncan (R Lt governor) walked into the voting both, could not vote for Walker and turned in an empty ballot.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2022, 11:15:03 PM »
Here is a guy, unlike many here that will not support Trump. Geoff Duncan (R Lt governor) walked into the voting both, could not vote for Walker and turned in an empty ballot.
What a loser

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2022, 11:27:03 PM »
What a loser
Not sure I would call someone with principals a loser. We need more like him.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2022, 11:30:20 PM »
Not sure I would call someone with principals a loser. We need more like him.
He's not a loser for not voting for Walker. He's a loser for walking into a voting booth and then not voting. He's also a loser because he thinks that we will be convinced he has principles because he didn't vote for Walker, while we all see right through it as a cheap attempt at PR.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #111 on: December 06, 2022, 11:31:45 PM »
Here is a guy, unlike many here that will not support Trump. Geoff Duncan (R Lt governor) walked into the voting both, could not vote for Walker and turned in an empty ballot.
Did he say this before or after it became clear he lost?
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #112 on: December 06, 2022, 11:33:16 PM »
Did he say this before or after it became clear he lost?
Before the race was called.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #113 on: December 06, 2022, 11:35:26 PM »
He's also a loser because he thinks that we will be convinced he has principles because he didn't vote for Walker, while we all see right through it as a cheap attempt at PR.
WOW!!! You accuse me of knowing what others think?  ::)

Do you know what principles are?
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #114 on: December 07, 2022, 01:11:29 AM »
WOW!!! You accuse me of knowing what others think?  ::)

Do you know what principles are?
No, he accused you for pretending that you fell for his PR stunt.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #115 on: December 07, 2022, 01:13:11 AM »
Tonight is another reason why people are done with Trump. A real reason. Oif Yiddish Zugt Men
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #116 on: December 07, 2022, 08:07:22 AM »
No, he accused you for pretending that you fell for his PR stunt.
A man of principals is a PR stunt? I guess anyone that supports Trump would feel it was a PR stunt.
Pretty hard to claim the high ground if you support someone like him, no?
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #117 on: December 07, 2022, 08:42:17 PM »
The ultimate Kool-Aid drinkers just put a fork in him!!!

Herschel Walker just wrote Donald Trump's political obituary
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/herschel-walker-wrote-donald-trump-political-obituary
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #118 on: December 07, 2022, 10:32:48 PM »
The ultimate Kool-Aid drinkers just put a fork in him!!!

https://yated.com/the-trump-conundrum/
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #119 on: December 07, 2022, 10:50:00 PM »
Is the electoral act a bill that limits a potentially technically accurate reading of the constitution that makes no sense? Is the constitution gospel, or is legislature to clarify and comply with the spirit logical?