Are gas stoves days numbered?

[Alexsei]

OT but http://montrealgazette-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/montreals-wood-burning-ban-starts-oct-1-what-you-need-to-know/wcm/926069ce-228b-4f84-be23-44840a2d8c7a/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D

[dm123]

From a cursory look it seems that neither direction mimics real works conditions

A cursory look at what? The study I posted is a meta analysis of many studies in North America and Europe. If it's a reference to the twitter thread, as I've said before I haven't read it so please direct me to the particular tweet.

[neveryou]

A cursory look at what? The study I posted is a meta analysis of many studies in North America and Europe. If it's a reference to the twitter thread, as I've said before I haven't read it so please direct me to the particular tweet.

When the libtard states started banning them a few years ago they never mentioned asthma it was about climate change. All of a sudden it's asthma, there trying to push harder so there going to say it's dangerous for kids. These crazy people have an agenda, that agenda is to make everyone cavemen.

[aygart]

A cursory look at what? The study I posted is a meta analysis of many studies in North America and Europe. If it's a reference to the twitter thread, as I've said before I haven't read it so please direct me to the particular tweet.

Can't link to twitter now, but it was not a long thread. The basic gist was that many studies did not mimic real world conditions including some done inside sealed plastic environments. Some also conflated the presence of airborne chemicals with them being a cause while more of those same substances can be released by cooking itself regardless of the heat source. On the other hand, he leans significantly on ventilation that may be exaggerated even if better that some o the conditions he quotes.

A Compendium of studies is only as good as the underlying studies.

[CountValentine]

Gas stoves cause asthma the same way vaccines cause autism

Did I ever tell you about, better to remain silent...

[CountValentine]

Lets debate the science? Do you vent your gas furnace, water heater and dryer? If so, why?

Even a first grader understands this but never...

[neveryou]

When the libtard states started banning them a few years ago they never mentioned asthma it was about climate change. All of a sudden it's asthma, there trying to push harder so there going to say it's dangerous for kids. These crazy people have an agenda, that agenda is to make everyone cavemen.

https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1613205535041503232?t=cn_RphsqnNtMJ8Vp8WDSTg&s=19

[dm123]

Can't link to twitter now, but it was not a long thread. The basic gist was that many studies did not mimic real world conditions including some done inside sealed plastic environments. Some also conflated the presence of airborne chemicals with them being a cause while more of those same substances can be released by cooking itself regardless of the heat source. On the other hand, he leans significantly on ventilation that may be exaggerated even if better that some o the conditions he quotes.

A Compendium of studies is only as good as the underlying studies.

So the bottom line is be careful, cooking has some level of danger associated with it causing childhood asthma, perhaps due to gas cooking, perhaps chemicals released by food during cooking, perhaps some mixture of both. Make sure your kitchen has proper ventilation set up and use ventilation when cooking.

[yesitsme]

next item to be banned
Milk
you know how many children suffer from it?
if you want to take this path you can ban anything and everything
the correct approach should be develop an alternative thats works for everyone so everyone should want to switch over

[aygart]

So the bottom line is be careful, cooking has some level of danger associated with it causing childhood asthma, perhaps due to gas cooking, perhaps chemicals released by food during cooking, perhaps some mixture of both. Make sure your kitchen has proper ventilation set up and use ventilation when cooking.

Yes this is true. There are likely differences between larger kitchens in many houses vs the smaller ones in some apartments too.

[CountValentine]

So the bottom line is be careful, cooking has some level of danger associated with it causing childhood asthma, perhaps due to gas cooking, perhaps chemicals released by food during cooking, perhaps some mixture of both. Make sure your kitchen has proper ventilation set up and use ventilation when cooking.

There are issues with both gas and electric cooking. Cooking oils with low smoke points produce all types of gases and should be vented to the outside.

Now a gas flame has issues all by itself that some will keep their head buried in the sand because they want to make it political.

[neveryou]

next item to be banned
Milk
you know how many children suffer from it?
if you want to take this path you can ban anything and everything
the correct approach should be develop an alternative thats works for everyone so everyone should want to switch over

They want to ban milk for a while already, you know for climate change.

Know how much methane gas cows produces?

[CountValentine]

the correct approach should be develop an alternative thats works for everyone so everyone should want to switch over

You can't get there when someone just wants to make it about politics.
They will just spout non-sense instead of educating themselves.

[dm123]

When the libtard states started banning them a few years ago they never mentioned asthma it was about climate change. All of a sudden it's asthma, there trying to push harder so there going to say it's dangerous for kids. These crazy people have an agenda, that agenda is to make everyone cavemen.

Look at the data! Red states are doing great!

Illinois experiences the highest burden (21.1%), followed by California (20.1%), New York (18.8%), Massachusetts (15.4%),
Florida experiences the lowest burden (3%).

[dm123]

@neveryou I started a politics thread for this but looks like mods beat me to it and moved it to just shmooze...

Look at the data! Red states are doing great!

[CountValentine]

@neveryou I started a politics thread for this but looks like mods beat me to it and moved it to just shmooze...

Belongs in the Health forum but some can't help themselves.

[aygart]

The idiotic party of the climate change aspect is that electric will cause more carbon emissions than gas, just not in the house.

[CountValentine]

The idiotic party of the climate change aspect is that electric will cause more carbon emissions than gas, just not in the house.

We can talk about the dangers and leave the idiots out from both sides.
@neveryou wanted the debate to be about science but he folded like a cheap suit. 

[Yehuda57]

Look at the data! Red states are doing great!

Gas burns blue, coal burns red.

[aygart]

Gas burns blue

Only if it is properly vented