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Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« on: January 24, 2023, 01:10:16 PM »
Does anyone know more?

https://dorosfund.org/
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Re: Generations - a revolution.
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2023, 01:18:02 PM »



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Re: Generations - a revolution.
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2023, 01:22:41 PM »
Are they suggesting every (potential) couple should sign up for a free "fertility services" subscription?
Sounds legit
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Re: Generations - a revolution.
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2023, 01:23:40 PM »
How this different than A TIME or Bonei Olam?

Why the need for another organization?

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Re: Generations - a revolution.
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2023, 01:25:44 PM »
How this different than A TIME or Bonei Olam?

Why the need for another organization?
I'm looking for the birth control tab.. lol
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2023, 01:46:06 PM »
Is there a rabbinical board?

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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2023, 01:48:51 PM »
Is there a rabbinical board?

No names mentioned.

I have many questions too.
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2023, 01:48:53 PM »
I'm wondering for what purpose they use https://www.veriff.com/plans
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2023, 02:26:42 PM »
from a friend who did a dummy booking
Membership Agreement & Limited Guarantee

 

GENERATIONS

A Non-Profit Association to Support the Growth and Health of the Jewish Community.

 

Membership Agreement & Limited Guarantee

 

We are Generations

Generations Doros, Inc. is a non-profit organization dedicated to the Growth and Health of the Jewish Community by providing Reproductive and Fertility Education to our Members along with other Member Benefits as described herein (the “Services”). Generations’ Member Services are provided at no cost to its Members.

 

Generations is supported by the generous donations of individuals and organizations who desire to help fulfill the Jewish dream and quest of having children. This Membership Agreement & Limited Guarantee provides information on Member Benefits, Expectations, and Details of Services. We encourage you to consult with your local Generations Representative and our website for additional information.

 

Generations does not provide insurance or healthcare services to any Member. The Member Benefits provided by Generations are not a substitute for health insurance or regular medical care, but it is our hope and the Mission of Generations to support Fertility in the Community through Education and other Services provided through the support of our generous donors.

 

Membership Qualifications

Generations in a non-profit organization with a mission to support fertility among first marriages in the Jewish community. Any “Newly Married Couple” between the ages of 18 and 25 years old is eligible for membership in Generations.

 

There is never a fee to become a Member or to receive any of our Services, but Generations does impose limits on who is eligible for Services. A “Newly Married Couple” means a couple who has become legally married (pursuant to the laws of the state in which they reside) within three (3) months prior to, or within three (3) months after, they become a member. Each spouse must be a Member of Generations at the same time, and only couples between the ages of 18 to 25 years old are eligible. The couple must reside in the United States and be citizens/residents  of the United States. Although there is no fee to become a Member, Generations is supported by the generous donations of individuals and organizations who desire to help fulfill the Jewish dream and quest of having children. You are free to make a donation to Generations at your own discretion.

 

How to Become a Member of Generations

To become a Member of Generations, the Couple must apply for Membership. The process is designed to be simple and efficient. Couples may sign up through the Generations website, free of-charge, phone system and physical forms, as well as Membership Cards will be delivered directly to the couple at their designated address(es). Registration requires verification of identity, and confirmation from each applying Member that they do not have any medical or genetic conditions that may prevent pregnancy or not allow fertility. When registering, the Couple commits to maintain the Membership for 48 months - (“Membership Period”). Once registered and Membership Cards are activated by the Couple, the Services will begin.

 

Member Benefits

Membership benefits shall begin upon the Couple becoming approved Members of Generations as confirmed by activation of the Membership Card(s). Membership automatically ends at the conclusion of the Membership Period.

 

Services are set based by the budget and Mission of Generations at its discretion. A list of Services is provided below (and more fully detailed in Schedule A hereto), and are subject to change or limitation, in Generations sole discretion, at any time. In addition to the Schedule of Services, all Members receive continuous access to e-magazines, articles, blogs and other sources of educational information on our website or through other Generations-reviewed information channels.

 

Welcome package including information about Services
Online Access to Generations Member Portal
Member consultation Helpline
Direct Rabbinical Guidance
Generations “Ask the Doctor” Questions and Answers (limited to online consolation)
Pregnancy and Fertility Therapists (limited to online consolation)
Referral service, to suggest and introduce relevant providers to Member Fertility Needs
Online fertility educational materials
 

Delivery and administration of each benefit is subject to review and preapproval by Generations and its designated clinics or providers.

 

Limited Guarantee

Generations believes that the Services will result in a pregnancy during the, first 24 months - of Membership. In the event a pregnancy does not occur during the first 24 months - of Membership, Generations shall provide additional services under this Guarantee (“Guarantee Services”), as set forth in Schedule B hereto, to the Member during the applicable Membership Period (as detailed in Schedule B) at no cost to the Member. The maximum dollar value of the Guarantee Services that a couple may receive shall not exceed $50,000 during the Membership Period.

 

In the event that the Couple is not successful in becoming pregnant during the, first 24 months -, of Membership, Generations will, in accordance with this Limited Guarantee, refer the Member to a designated Fertility Clinic. The clinic will require a Generations Membership Card and proof of identity. Generations will pay for the Guarantee Services stipulated in the Guarantee Services table below (schedule B), following a referral to a clinic that Generations has specifically selected consistent with its mission. Generations will pay directly to the designated clinics so you can focus on your Spouse and a successful pregnancy.

 

THIS GUARANTEE PROVIDES A LIMITED GUARANTEE OF GENERATIONS SERVICES. IT IS NOT A CONTRACT OF SURETY OR INSURANCE. It does not provide health insurance, indemnity or defense of any third-party claim or liability, and it does not in any event provide any payment other than as set forth in this Guarantee. The Guarantee Services provided under this Guarantee are secondary to any available insurance that may provide coverage, in whole or in part, for the Guarantee Services.

 

Generations shall have no obligation to provide the Guarantee Services under this Guarantee in the event Member failed to disclose any pre exiting genetic or medical condition that prevents the Couple from having a normal pregnancy.

 

Additional Generations Benefits

In addition to the above described, here are more details about benefits from Generations.

Generations will provide news, information and opportunities for the Member to get involved in local Community meetings and discussions about fertility issues and solutions.

 

By initiating your membership cards, you and your spouse are confirming that you understand and confirm Generations' frame-of-operation and way of conduct, as exposed hereof, and the terms and conditions of the Limited Guarantee Our target is to assist both you, your spouse, and the whole Community at no-charge; however, in return, we expect that if you have questions or even complaints or concerns about Generation, you will contact us first so we can resolve them in a community-oriented and friendly manner. If you have questions, please review information on our website or do not hesitate to call us directly.

 

Governing Law – This Membership and accompanying Guarantee shall be governed by the substantive laws of the State of Florida without regard to the conflict of law rules.

 

Entire Agreement - This Membership Agreement & Limited Guarantee constitutes the entire agreement between the parties with respect to this subject matter.

 

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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2023, 02:58:40 PM »
can't view the webpage without sharing contact info? Shady?
https://dorosfund.org/company/home
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2023, 03:07:22 PM »
from a friend who did a dummy booking
Membership Agreement & Limited Guarantee

 
I still don't get it.
A couple should sign up immediately upon marriage. They must declare that they know of no health issues.
If they have fertility issues within the first 4 years,
Generations will refer them to fertility experts??


What's the need for this?  Why can't they just avail themselves of community help if and when they need it?
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2023, 03:09:38 PM »
When they refer to donors, who are they referring to?




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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2023, 03:21:58 PM »
Sounds like a free “healthshare” type of program. Can’t wrap my head around the model. They make it seem like they have donors already invested internally……also max is 50k which is low if there are serious issues

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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2023, 03:23:08 PM »
Is there a membership cost?
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2023, 04:09:54 PM »
Is there a membership cost?

No, but you can give a donation.

From the QA page,

We would like to join Generations, but would feel more comfortable if we paid for our membership fee instead of donors. Can we cover our own costs?
Although there is no membership fee, Generations runs on donations. You are more than welcome to make a donation toward the operating costs.
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2023, 04:19:42 PM »

Generations “Ask the Doctor” Questions and Answers (limited to online consolation)
Pregnancy and Fertility Therapists (limited to online consolation)

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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2023, 08:27:00 PM »
https://www.ivelt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=60173
From what they claim here, transliterated:

- Members will be covered by an actual insurance policy underwritten by an actual insurer
- The (minimal) premiums for every member will be paid to the insurance company by Doros for 3 years after which the members policy will be terminated
- Actual treatment (if needed) will be paid out by the insurer with a 50k cap
- Treatment will be limited to those proven and approved by the insurer
- Doros will use donations to pay the members' premiums
- They will use the power of 1000s of members so that the endeavor is profitable for the insurance company
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
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Re: Generations - a revolution. (Or ?)
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2023, 10:37:27 AM »
Is standalone fertility insurance not as a add on to a larger health insurance policy a standardly available product? A quick Google search didn't return results for such a thing.