Areivim USA - Coronavirus

[WayBackMachine]

this is the same BMG campaign that was recently criticized, they clearly write that Areivim not life insurance and everyone is encouraged to get both,
I asked them about it, and they said they fixed their mistakes.

[aygart]

they clearly write that Areivim not life insurance

Where?

[dm123]

Where?

Image is pretty unclear. But it seems to say "Areivim encourages its members to also sign up for life insurance." (i.e. LI is a separate thing that should be obtained)

That being said this picture gives a very strong impression that Areivim is related to life insurance rather than a beautiful way to give tzedaka.
"also sign up for LI"
"When a family has both they should be covered for all eventualities"
"They'll be able to pick up the pieces...in a respectful manner"

If they would clarify that LI covers financial/gashmi and Areivim covers ruchni (tzedaka tatzil) or something like that I would be more comfortable with the language.
Although my comfort is largely irrelevant, if people are signing up for Areviim and looking at LI policies, then it's great.

[ExGingi]

When will the question in the poll be corrected?

Areivim is not anything one "has". People could be members, but they don't "have" anything. Life insurance on the other hand is a legal contract that gives the owners rights and benefits. It is something people could have.

[dm123]

When will the question in the poll be corrected?

Areivim is not anything one "has". People could be members, but they don't "have" anything. Life insurance on the other hand is a legal contract that gives the owners rights and benefits. It is something people could have.

Arguably the zchus hatzedaka one "has" from Areivim is much more "real" than the legal contract from life insurance.

[aygart]

Image is pretty unclear. But it seems to say "Areivim encourages its members to also sign up for life insurance." (i.e. LI is a separate thing that should be obtained)

That being said this picture gives a very strong impression that Areivim is related to life insurance rather than a beautiful way to give tzedaka.
"also sign up for LI"
"When a family has both they should be covered for all eventualities"
"They'll be able to pick up the pieces...in a respectful manner"

If they would clarify that LI covers financial/gashmi and Areivim covers ruchni (tzedaka tatzil) or something like that I would be more comfortable with the language.
Although my comfort is largely irrelevant, if people are signing up for Areviim and looking at LI policies, then it's great.

Here is a clearer image

I've enrolled not that long ago despite having enough LI coverage that al pi teva my family should not need the money due to the reframing of it as a tzedaka here on DDF. Based on their framing of it as an LI substitute/supplement, I would not have enrolled.



 

The point isn't whether or not it has a name "Life INsurance" but that it is being presented as being essentially the same thing and as a replacement for it. This answer makes it worse not better. They very clearly consider the only reason for LI to be that Areivim is not enough money. Note how they very specifically avoid giving any answer to "How is Areivim different from LI?" and instead just go on to recommend having both.

[knowitall]

My shul had a big drive this week, where the message was "Everyone should get areivim". I didn't hear once that you should get (term) life insurance. While Areivim does mention quietly that they aren't a substitute for LI, I didn't hear that this time.

I'm not anti-Areivim, I have it, I think this push is a very good thing, but would have been better if they mentioned that LI is usually attainable for a few bucks a month.

[jack79]

Who runs Areivim? Who started it?

[AsherO]

Arguably the zchus hatzedaka one "has" from Areivim is much more "real" than the legal contract from life insurance.

Let me guess, people cash that check on crowdfunding platforms. Hard pass.

[WayBackMachine]

Who runs Areivim? Who started it?

why don't you email them?