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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2023, 07:50:15 AM »
A few questions:
1. How do we know that there were balloons that we don't know about?
2. If there were balloons we didnt know about, who is the bozo for missing it? Are elected officials accountable for missing it or the department of defense? It's not quite like looking up to see if there's a solar eclipse
1 - The same way we didn't know there were not WMD's until we did.
2 - The admin is responsible for everything that goes on.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2023, 07:52:18 AM »
Every R out there is trying to make something out of nothing. I guess with all the numbers coming in for this admin lately this is all they got?

Rep. Ted Lieu Bursts New Gingrich's Balloon In High-Flying Fact-Check
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rep-ted-lieu-bursts-new-gingrich-s-balloon-in-high-flying-fact-check/ar-AA17caY8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=425fbd0c995149bda0946536ebefea48
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2023, 08:59:26 AM »
Every R out there is trying to make something out of nothing. I guess with all the numbers coming in for this admin lately this is all they got?

Rep. Ted Lieu Bursts New Gingrich's Balloon In High-Flying Fact-Check
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rep-ted-lieu-bursts-new-gingrich-s-balloon-in-high-flying-fact-check/ar-AA17caY8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=425fbd0c995149bda0946536ebefea48

Politics is all about making something out of nothing. They made Joe Biden into president.

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2023, 12:52:12 PM »
I wonder why you believe an anonymous report over the on the record denial from many in the Trump administration.

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Have you put down the Kool-Aid yet?  :) @zh cohen
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/intel-docs-show-proof-of-china-spy-balloons-during-trump-s-presidency-in-2019/ar-AA17bzDl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=55a78e4a77e3432f8d82e98444a16043
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2023, 12:55:43 PM »
Have you put down the Kool-Aid yet?  :) @zh cohen
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/intel-docs-show-proof-of-china-spy-balloons-during-trump-s-presidency-in-2019/ar-AA17bzDl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=55a78e4a77e3432f8d82e98444a16043
Are you comparing these to the current case?

According to the report, the balloon floated around 65,000 feet, and “drifted past Hawaii and across Florida before continuing its journey."

That was the same year that a report surfaced out of Tibet that India witnessed a spy balloon over their country.

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2023, 01:07:14 PM »
Are you comparing these to the current case?
Not at all. I am pointing out that balloons under the last admin violated US airspace and nothing was done.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2023, 01:42:20 PM »
Is there any evidence that anyone knew about any balloons while they were there under the Trump administration or only after the fact?

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2023, 01:46:00 PM »
Is there any evidence that anyone knew about any balloons while they were there under the Trump administration or only after the fact?
Did you read what he posted?
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2023, 02:01:22 PM »

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2023, 02:03:32 PM »
Just wondering, have you signed up for some kind of premium subscription of msn back in the 90's, that you still use them
MSN has articles from the right, left and the middle. Seems like a good choice.
The one you quoted is from left wing nutcases Raw Story.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2023, 03:07:47 PM »
Did you read what he posted?
some of it

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2023, 03:12:55 PM »
some of it
The first thing was that they quoted documents from 2019.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2023, 04:02:20 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2023, 04:22:49 PM »


This was a press conference at the Pentagon
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2023, 04:31:12 PM »
This was a press conference at the Pentagon
I understand that. The point being I was accused of drinking the Kool-Aid when in fact the unnamed sources were 100% correct that balloons violated US airspace during the last admin. @zh cohen should be man enough and issue an apology.  :)
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2023, 04:35:24 PM »
I understand that. The point being I was accused of drinking the Kool-Aid when in fact the unnamed sources were 100% correct that balloons violated US airspace during the last admin. @zh cohen should be man enough and issue an apology.  :)

Sounds good :)
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2023, 05:12:50 PM »

I understand that. The point being I was accused of drinking the Kool-Aid when in fact the unnamed sources were 100% correct that balloons violated US airspace during the last admin. @zh cohen should be man enough and issue an apology.  :)

You got accused of drinking the Kool-Aid because you wanted to know why people were not outraged during the Trump administration.

So when these balloons entered US airspace under the last admin where was the outrage?

Will you apologize for accusing people of selective outrage, now that everyone agrees that no one knew this happened at the time
?

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2023, 05:19:58 PM »
You got accused of drinking the Kool-Aid because you wanted to know why people were not outraged during the Trump administration.

Will you apologize for accusing people of selective outrage, now that everyone agrees that no one knew this happened at the time
?
I expected you to weasel out of it. That is your SOP. Here is your quote. I was 100% correct believing the unnamed sources.  You believed a bunch of bozos who said it never happened. Keep your head buried in the sand. ROFLMAO!
I wonder why you believe an anonymous report over the on the record denial from many in the Trump administration.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2023, 05:28:24 PM »
Looks like MTG and @zh cohen are drinking the same Kool-Aid.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) denied that a spy balloon from China flew over the United States at least three times during President Donald Trump's administration. Greene isn't on the intelligence committee or part of the "Gang of 8," but she's certain that the Pentagon is lying about the U.S. Air Force's report on the 2019 balloon.


Republican John Cornyn shoots down Trump balloon denialism — and says he believes the Air Force
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-john-cornyn-shoots-down-trump-balloon-denialism-and-says-he-believes-the-air-force/ar-AA17dCwR?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=ed4fb59952cf4bd7ae3619115157ed00
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