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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #120 on: February 14, 2023, 03:38:59 PM »
The point is you have nukes a stone throw away and we are freaking out about a balloon.
This is a political issue and that is all.
And we have nukes a stone throw away from them. Or closer.
Surveilling sensitive sites is not political. Not to me anyways.

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2023, 03:44:44 PM »
Surveilling sensitive sites is not political. Not to me anyways.
That is true but one side made this political right from the start. Now they have egg on their face, so the talking points have changed.

Meanwhile I will bet we (US) are working to better our technology to detect these things earlier and give us better options. This admin just doesn't foolishly broadcast everything.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2023, 04:20:55 PM »
That is true but one side made this political right from the start. Now they have egg on their face, so the talking points have changed.

Meanwhile I will bet we (US) are working to better our technology to detect these things earlier and give us better options. This admin just doesn't foolishly broadcast everything.
It really started with how the first one was able to traverse the continent. Had that not happened then everything would have  been lame. My guess is that was done to allow it to stay intact and gather more intelligence about it.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2023, 04:37:47 PM »
That is true but one side made this political right from the start.
So now the other side tries to pathetically cover up for their failures with “the previous administration”. Or as we like to call it around here “but officer”.

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2023, 04:41:32 PM »
It really started with how the first one was able to traverse the continent. Had that not happened then everything would have  been lame. My guess is that was done to allow it to stay intact and gather more intelligence about it.
It actually started about how inept this admin was as people from the ground spotted it before the intelligence agencies. Once that was shown to be fake news then the talking points changed and then continue to change. 

Everyone needs to understand we shot this down because it was determined to be spying on the US. If it was determined to be a real weather balloon it would not have been shot down.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2023, 04:43:54 PM »
So now the other side tries to pathetically cover up for their failures with “the previous administration”. Or as we like to call it around here “but officer”.
Not at all. Once they are determined to be up to illegal actives they are shot down once it is safe to do.

I have yet to hear anyone in this admin say we didn't shoot it down and neither did the last admin. That is a "but officer" but never happened.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2023, 04:55:18 PM »
Everyone needs to understand we shot this down because it was determined to be spying on the US. If it was determined to be a real weather balloon it would not have been shot down.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2023, 04:57:47 PM »
circling the wagons ;D
You are serving me a nothingburger and want me to believe it is a filet.  ::)
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2023, 05:01:29 PM »
You are serving me a nothingburger and want me to believe it is a filet.  ::)
Are you saying that we let it enter our airspace & fly around for however long because we thought it was a weather balloon ?
Please tell me you’re not

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #129 on: February 14, 2023, 05:06:03 PM »
Are you saying that we let it enter our airspace & fly around for however long because we thought it was a weather balloon ?
Please tell me you’re not
Listen to both R's and D's that just received the briefing from the pentagon. This is a NOTHINGBURGER!!!

One of the missiles missed the balloon. If someone would have been hurt the talking point would be why are you shooting down a harmless weather balloon.  ::)
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2023, 05:08:30 PM »
Shoot first and ask questions latter is a failed policy.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2023, 05:11:47 PM »


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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2023, 05:17:44 PM »
This is a NOTHINGBURGER!!!
So it wasn’t a Chinese spy balloon ? Thank goodness

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2023, 05:23:06 PM »
So it wasn’t a Chinese spy balloon ? Thank goodness
They believe it was.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #134 on: February 14, 2023, 05:27:10 PM »
They believe it was.
Then don’t call this a nothingburger.

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #135 on: February 14, 2023, 05:32:22 PM »
Then don’t call this a nothingburger.
It is to me when they have spies on the ground everywhere.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #136 on: February 14, 2023, 05:40:45 PM »
It is to me when they have spies on the ground everywhere.
Then they both have to be dealt with. One issue doesn’t negate the other. We have a million agencies spending gazillions of dollars. There’s enough money & men to deal with both.

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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #137 on: February 14, 2023, 05:42:36 PM »
There’s enough money & men to deal with both.
Doesn't seem that way as they missed the balloons under both the last two admin and probably longer.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #138 on: February 14, 2023, 06:29:25 PM »
Doesn't seem that way as they missed the balloons under both the last two admin and probably longer.
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Re: Spy balloon saga.
« Reply #139 on: February 14, 2023, 06:50:05 PM »
It is to me when they have spies on the ground everywhere.
Do they have antennas the size of busses that can listen to any wired communication?

Do you think China spends tens or hundreds of millions on spy balloons when they can have agents on the ground do the same thing?

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