Today I Did...Things You Just Did For The First Time

[yelped]

Just thinking out loud. If it’s only used for surgery it may actually be Mulktzah.

Clearly, it's not only used for surgery.

[avromie7]

Just thinking out loud. If it’s only used for surgery it may actually be Mulktzah.

A kli shemelachto l'issur can be handled l'tzorech gufo.

[aygart]

A kli shemelachto l'issur can be handled l'tzorech gufo.

If it was for surgery it would probably be machmas chisaron kis

[yelped]

If it was for surgery it would probably be machmas chisaron kis

A kli shemelachto l'issur can be handled l'tzorech gufo.

As we see by sacin milah. But clearly these are treated differently.

[mevinyavin]

I'm sorry - you better not be using that same knife for surgery.
So it isn't a surgical knife for the owner's purposes.

[Yo ssi]

I'm sorry - you better not be using that same knife for surgery.
So it isn't a surgical knife for the owner's purposes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sterilizing+surgical+instruments

[mevinyavin]

https://www.google.com/search?q=sterilizing+surgical+instruments

You sterilize surgical instruments between surgeries. Not after using them to cut roasts!

[Yo ssi]

You sterilize surgical instruments between surgeries. Not after using them to cut roasts!

Considering they remain sharp (or are sharpened), it's not an issue. CMIIW

[mevinyavin]

Considering they remain sharp (or are sharpened), it's not an issue. CMIIW

Maybe, but still scary sounding...

[avromie7]

If it was for surgery it would probably be machmas chisaron kis

Scalpels are cheap and disposable.

[jj1000]

Just thinking out loud. If it’s only used for surgery it may actually be Mulktzah.

If it was for surgery it would probably be machmas chisaron kis

Why are we assuming that surgery is an issur on shabbos?

These only apply when the object is used for an isur during the week. AFAIK saving a life isn't muktza CMIIW.

[jj1000]

Scalpels are cheap and disposable.

Same logic is toiveling mentioned above. It was tossed after one use as is the norm for these wrapped hospital surgical blades.

[aygart]

Why are we assuming that surgery is an issur on shabbos?

These only apply when the object is used for an isur during the week. AFAIK saving a life isn't muktza CMIIW.

It makes a chabura and therefore is a melacha on shabbos. If it is lifesaving then it would be mutar to do anyhow.

[jj1000]

It makes a chabura and therefore is a melacha on shabbos. If it is lifesaving then it would be mutar to do anyhow.

But it's intended purpose is lifesaving in this case. So how could it be muktza?

Many people carry guns on shabbos, I assume it's not muktza because it's purpose is to save lives.

[CountValentine]

I sliced a london broil on shabbos with a 15 blade surgical scalpel.

POIDH

[jj1000]

POIDH

Bro, do you see the fire I'm under for doing this. Can you imagine what would happen when I post the pics of it?!

[aygart]

But it's intended purpose is lifesaving in this case. So how could it be muktza?

Many people carry guns on shabbos, I assume it's not muktza because it's purpose is to save lives.

Meaning this particular doctor who only does lifesaving surgery? All of them are unscheduled?

[aygart]

Bro, do you see the fire I'm under for doing this.

POIDH

[jj1000]

Meaning this particular doctor who only does lifesaving surgery? All of them are unscheduled?

This knife is carried for short notice airway obstruction. To cut an opening so someone can breath.

[CountValentine]

Bro, do you see the fire I'm under for doing this. Can you imagine what would happen when I post the pics of it?!

I got your back. What type of meat did you use?