Poll

If a DDMS post is made about shady hotel programs, should it be a general expose or a specific expose?

#TeamLurker: General expose/PSA
36 (59%)
#TeamYehuda57: Specific expose/PSA
25 (41%)

Total Members Voted: 61

Author Topic: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?  (Read 5294 times)

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2023, 12:30:10 AM »
FTR I voted or Team Lurker but my real vote is for whatever the dayan says.
This poll isn't a halachic question.

Even if it's allowed to be shared, where and how is still a question.

Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2023, 12:58:01 AM »
830 people read this tread and only 53 voted!
give some love (likes) to a brother!

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2023, 01:30:28 AM »
830 people read this tread and only 53 voted!
is it unique views ( as in each ip is only counted once) ?

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2023, 04:51:52 AM »
FTR I voted or Team Lurker but my real vote is for whatever the dayan says.
Same vote but I thought that was obvious, and this was a betting sport for what the dayan would say. Wait, it was a serious poll?
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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2023, 07:03:19 AM »
This poll isn't a halachic question.
-1

When it comes to such a story, every individual detail should be a halachic question. There are tens of possible negative allegations that can be publicized in this story. Just a few examples:
-He waited too long to tell people
-He was behind in payments before
-His past programs were a flop
-He declared bankruptcy x amount of times
-He owned venders x amount of money
-He is flippant and unapologetic
-His business mentality is to do projects without enough capital
-etc etc etc

Each one of these claims may be Loshon Harah to publicize. OR, it can be a halachic obligation to publicize all of them. OR, it may be loshon harah to publicize some but an obligation to publicize others.

I think that the "where and how" of publicizing is very much a question for a halachic authority.

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2023, 08:54:26 AM »
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He's saying the halachic side, including all those aspects, gets asked to a rav regardless of the poll.

Obviously his decision is not being made by the poll. And as Dan has stated many times, his "questionable" posts always have halachic guidance.



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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2023, 08:57:21 AM »
He's saying the halachic side, including all those aspects, gets asked to a rav regardless of the poll.

Obviously his decision is not being made by the poll. And as Dan has stated many times, his "questionable" posts always have halachic guidance.
Exactly. Obviously this a halachic question and I'm not asking a DDF poll to pasken halacha.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2023, 08:58:37 AM »
Exactly. I'm not asking DDF to pasken halacha.
DDF is primarily a halacha forum

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2023, 09:01:19 AM »
Each one of these claims may be Loshon Harah to publicize. OR, it can be a halachic obligation to publicize all of them. OR, it may be loshon harah to publicize some but an obligation to publicize others.

I think that the "where and how" of publicizing is very much a question for a halachic authority.

By the same token, every person reading and commenting on this story here has the same shaalos to ask.
Failing at maintaining Lurker status.

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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2023, 09:08:37 AM »
By the same token, every person reading and commenting on this story here has the same shaalos to ask.
At least the folks that would never step food in a Pesach program ;)
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Re: #TeamLurker Or #TeamYehuda57?
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2023, 09:31:28 AM »
At least the folks that would never step food in a Pesach program ;)
I don't think anyone on DDF would step on food, even if it is from a Pesach program.