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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #101 on: June 30, 2023, 01:38:07 PM »
Here is a real source ;)
מגיד מישרים


Dug into this. I don’t think it’s relevant. שריקות עדרים is a reference to a passuk in שופטים פרק טז which is talking about screeches of war. That’s why the word the מגיד is talking about is associated with דין. It’s not a ראיה at all to stam whistling.

I’m going Lubavitch on this one :)
https://www.chabad.org/therebbe/article_cdo/aid/1116/jewish/A-Rehearsal-for-Redemption.htm

google “does whistling bring bad spirits” ;)
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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #102 on: June 30, 2023, 01:49:47 PM »

I’m going Lubavitch


Makes for a good signature for @Yehuda57, nice variety to choose from :)

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #104 on: July 27, 2023, 09:46:36 PM »
Anyone with Otzar Hachochma able to look something up for me? I need an actual screenshot of קהלת רבה ז, יג.

Thanks!
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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2023, 09:51:50 PM »
Anyone with Otzar Hachochma able to look something up for me? I need an actual screenshot of קהלת רבה ז, יג.

Thanks!



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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #106 on: July 27, 2023, 09:55:01 PM »
Amazing, thank you!
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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2023, 07:40:22 AM »
Notice the first few words:
Yup, I had missed that that.

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #109 on: August 02, 2023, 06:13:34 PM »
Of course massive empires come and go from Hashem.

The question is though that the בעל ההגדה seems certain that without the supernatural יציאת מצרים with all its accompanying miracles, we would still be there. How does he know that? Other nations were enslaved and liberated without this whole shebang in a much more על פי דרך הטבע way
וירא ישראל והנה מצריים רודפים אחריהם..
It's referring to the שר.
Perhaps us being enslaved to mitzrayim physically was simply a manifestation of the שליטה that the שר had over us, that's why it says "אני ולא מלאך " meaning there was no other angel that had the strength to take מצריים down, so had God not "personally" knocked מצריים out, there wud not have been another way for us to become free from it's clutches.
So perhaps we wud not be in the land of Egypt per se' but us as kllal yisroel wud still be enslaved under those powerful forces for  eternity.

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #110 on: August 02, 2023, 06:34:47 PM »
וירא ישראל והנה מצריים רודפים אחריהם..
It's referring to the שר.
Perhaps us being enslaved to mitzrayim physically was simply a manifestation of the שליטה that the שר had over us, that's why it says "אני ולא מלאך " meaning there was no other angel that had the strength to take מצריים down, so had God not "personally" knocked מצריים out, there wud not have been another way for us to become free from it's clutches.
So perhaps we wud not be in the land of Egypt per se' but us as kllal yisroel wud still be enslaved under those powerful forces for  eternity.
Nice.
This is a slightly different version than my preferred answer that Egypt was such a spiritually depraved society,  that had we not gotten out when we did, our nations character would’ve been forever blemished and defiled in an irreparable way. So this is what we mean when we say we would still be enslaved to pharaoh and Egypt, our soul and spirit would still be enslaved to the worst elements of morality, and we therefore celebrate and give our enteral thanks to God for saving us in the brink of time, enabling the Jewish nation to attain the greatest levels of spirituality.

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2023, 01:25:39 PM »
There is a vort about seder devorim representing the current millennium and כי תבוא would be representative of the 700th year matching the tochacha with the Holocaust. I think it’s a Gra.

Anyone know where it is?

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #112 on: September 02, 2023, 04:48:05 PM »
There is a vort about seder devorim representing the current millennium and כי תבוא would be representative of the 700th year matching the tochacha with the Holocaust. I think it’s a Gra.

Anyone know where it is?
See https://www.vorts.co.il/?p=3761.
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בספר 'אמונה והשגחה' מהרב שמואל מאלצאן ז"ל (דף ל"ב) הביא מסורת, איש מפי איש, שהגאון רבי אליהו מווילנא גילה לתלמידו ר' חיים מוולוז'ין כי ספר דברים הינו כנגד האלף השישי של העולם, ובו עשר פרשות (שכן פרשות ניצבים-וילך נחשבות לפרשה אחת). כל פרשה מקבילה, לפי סדר, למאה שנים מתוך האלף השישי, ורומזת למאורעות שיתרחשו באותן השנים. שאל אותו ר' חיים תלמידו: "והיכן הוא, הגר"א (=הגאון מווילנא), רמוז בפרשה המקבילה למאה הנוכחית (שלהם), פרשת כי תצא?", והשיב לו הגר"א כי נאמר בפרשה (פרק כה, טו) "אבן שלמה וצדק יהיה לך", שרומז בראשי תיבות למילים "אליהו בן שלמה"- שמו המלא של הגר"א…

לאור זאת נמצא, כי פרשתנו, פרשת ניצבים, שהיא הפרשה השביעית בחומש דברים, מכוונת כנגד מאה השנים שבמאה השביעית, משנת ת"ש ועד שנת ת"ת, בה אנו חיים היום. ואכן מפליא הדבר שעם תחילת מאה השנים, עמדו כל חלקי עם ישראל ניצבים למשפט, כולל הנשים והטף, ולמרבה האסון התקיים בעמינו בעת השואה מה שנאמר: "לעברך בברית ה' א-להיך ובאלתו", זוהי כל האלה הכתובה בספר התורה אם ח"ו לא נעמוד בתנאי הברית אשר כרת עמנו ה' אלוקינו.

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #113 on: September 02, 2023, 09:04:53 PM »
See https://www.vorts.co.il/?p=3761.
Thanks!

This fellow seems to have the numbers confused. נצבים is the 8th parsha, but 700-800 should correspond to the 8th so it works out.

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #114 on: September 04, 2023, 05:18:39 PM »
Btw there’s no mekor whatsoever for the 3 little jumps that ppl make after they finish Shmona Esrei
I always assumed people just made this up, cuz ideally you're supposed to wait until kedusha to take ur steps back, so to bystanders it can look like you take your 3 steps and then do kadosh kadosh kadosh, so it turned into people thinking you supposed to jump after ur 3 steps🤣!

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #115 on: September 13, 2023, 08:12:47 AM »
I don’t think they care particularly about either one
ט"ז או"ח צה:ג regarding the fingers

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #116 on: September 13, 2023, 09:21:17 AM »
ט"ז או"ח צה:ג regarding the fingers
Clasping both hands together and intertwining fingers is indeed something that some are careful about.

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #117 on: September 27, 2023, 04:50:31 PM »
Any early source for preference of specific shaped esrogim?

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #118 on: September 27, 2023, 06:29:46 PM »
Any early source for preference of specific shaped esrogim?

לשון הראשונים והמחבר: וחוטמו היינו ממקום שמתחיל להתקצר ולהתחדד כלפי ראשו
  וע״ע ערוך השלחן סי׳ מ׳ בענין עגול ככדור ובביאה״ל שחולק עליו

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Re: Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)
« Reply #119 on: September 27, 2023, 06:35:40 PM »
לשון הראשונים והמחבר: וחוטמו היינו ממקום שמתחיל להתקצר ולהתחדד כלפי ראשו
How does this show a preference for a certain גידול?