Help search and find a mekor (source for Jewish ideas)

[solmeir]

The source is the Bais Yosef as advised by the magid who appeared to him. Don’t have the exact source offhand

[jye]

The source is the Bais Yosef as advised by the magid who appeared to him. Don’t have the exact source offhand

It was on succos. The beis yosef and others circled the kever rash I with the arba minim and it rained. The Maggie afterward told the beis Yosef that in the future  he should circle the kever Rashbi seven times for any Tzara but It doesn’t appear he meant to use a lulav…

[imayid2]

See שו״ת מנחת יצחק ח״ח סי׳ נג
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1600&st=&pgnum=403

Thanks!

Seems to be explaining why it’s not necessarily a problem, but doesn’t quote anything that would indicate it was ever a thing.

[yelped]

Thanks!

Seems to be explaining why it’s not necessarily a problem, but doesn’t quote anything that would indicate it was ever a thing.

You skimmed through it a bit too fast...

[imayid2]

You skimmed through it a bit too fast...

Close, I didn’t realize it goes to the next page.

למעשה he doesn’t have a Mekor for the practice, and we don’t find it was done in the past.

[imayid2]

Well.. sort of. See .גמרא סוכה לח

שיירי מצוה מעכבין את הפורענות שהרי תנופה שירי מצוה היא ועוצרת רוחות וטללים רעים ואמר רבא וכן בלולב

Lol

[EliJelly]

למעשה he doesn’t have a Mekor for the practice, and we don’t find it was done in the past.

Are you looking for a mekor in Rambam or S"A?

[Torah Jew]

Thanks!

Seems to be explaining why it’s not necessarily a problem, but doesn’t quote anything that would indicate it was ever a thing.

I found some very interesting sources on chabad.org.
From the 12th century traveler R’ Binyamin Tudela where he writes it was the custom to inscribe your name in the stones of Kever Rachel:

2/3 of the way down the page
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=20762&st=&pgnum=35&hilite=

[imayid2]

Are you looking for a mekor in Rambam or S"A?

No, any sefer showing that people did this once upon a time will do.

החדש אסור מן התורה

[EliJelly]

No, any sefer showing that people did this once upon a time will do.

החדש אסור מן התורה

Definitely goes back a while, I think there are even photos of kvarim pre war with piles of kvitlach.
 
https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21759&st=&pgnum=41&hilite=

[Torah Jew]

No, any sefer showing that people did this once upon a time will do.

החדש אסור מן התורה

(See my above post in case it was missed) Also quoted there was from R’ Avraham Palagi where he writes that the Ohr Hachaim gave his student a note with something written on it to put in the Kosel as a segula for parnasah apparently. But I can’t make out all the words. See right before אות טז.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=20430&st=&pgnum=191&hilite=

[yelped]

Close, I didn’t realize it goes to the next page.

למעשה he doesn’t have a Mekor for the practice, and we don’t find it was done in the past.

Depends on how you define "past". He says he's seen תלמידי חכמים ואנשי מעשה do it and he quotes the Maharam Shik who says he saw it, too (unless I also skimmed through it too fast).

[imayid2]

he quotes the Maharam Shik who says he saw it, too (unless I also skimmed through it too fast).

Yes

[Torah Jew]

@imayid2 just bumping up my recent posts because as a new user my replies were not approved before there were new replies. See above.

[imayid2]

I found some very interesting sources on chabad.org.
From the 12th century traveler R’ Binyamin Tudela where he writes it was the custom to inscribe your name in the stones of Kever Rachel:

2/3 of the way down the page
https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=20762&st=&pgnum=35&hilite=

(See my above post in case it was missed) Also quoted there was from R’ Avraham Palagi where he writes that the Ohr Hachaim gave his student a note with something written on it to put in the Kosel as a segula for parnasah apparently. But I can’t make out all the words. See right before אות טז.

https://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=20430&st=&pgnum=191&hilite=

Very interesting and much appreciated!

Not quite the same as a kvittel which is sort of treating the person as if he’s still alive and accepting kvittlach.

[imayid2]

What is the earliest source giving meaning to singing/dancing around a fire?

[aygart]

What is the earliest source giving meaning to singing/dancing around a fire?

I am sure some will tell you it is this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltane

[mmgfarb]

What is the earliest source giving meaning to singing/dancing around a fire?

What's any source that there's a meaning to it?

[imayid2]

What's any source that there's a meaning to it?

Meaning as having to do with Judaism

[yungermanchik]

Taami haminhagim brings down some.