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Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« on: June 15, 2023, 04:50:11 PM »
Iím looking for off the beaten path things to do, see, and hear in Yerushalaim in the next few weeks. 
Things that a solo traveler would be comfortable doing. June/July 2023.
Thanks

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2023, 06:37:42 PM »
*off the the beaten master thread of jerusalem

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2023, 06:46:23 PM »
Looking for new things, or not the usual.  Saw that thread already

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2023, 07:23:50 PM »

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2023, 05:07:51 PM »
tell us what you have done already, and what you interests are...
for example I could tell you to do shvill hamaayanot or the rockefeller museum, but if you're not intetested in hiking or archeology...

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2023, 10:51:24 PM »
Lifta has some natural springs along with a nice hike and an abandoned city.

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2023, 11:22:27 PM »
Lifta has some natural springs along with a nice hike and an abandoned city.


Is this suitable for kids, and in the summer?

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2023, 11:48:52 AM »
Is this suitable for kids, and in the summer?

As any place with water in the summer YEMV.

Intrinsicaly, suitable for kids, easy walk from gesher meitarim, you can continue down hill to motza and take a bus back from there if you don't want to hike back up.
No one can tell you that it won't be full of chiloni young women exactly when you get there + one of the three reasons we don't enter a churva... v'ha@mevinyavin

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2023, 11:57:39 AM »
solo male or female?

Just a few otbp things
no particular order\

Ramchal and bnei torah shuls in Har nof
Motza, sataf, shvil hamaaynot, yad kennedy
ein lavan bibical zoo, aquarium
park hamifletzet in kiryat yovel
park hamesila allong theold rail line
katamon
tayelet hass
park begin
770 in ramat shlomo
belz, gur
gan sacher+surounding parks
An anti bibi hafgana
an anti light rail hafgana
veiw of city from har hatzofim
veiw of city from kever shmuel hanavi
zviller rebbe kever
gurrer rebbes kever in yeshiva sfas emes
martef hashoa on har tzion
help people put on teffilin at the kosel
the old breslov guy in zebra levush who plays intresting string instruments (i've seen him in kikar shabbos and in front of tach merkazit)
zichron moshe daf yomi shtibelach  (more or less a shiur every hour, the whole day)

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2023, 12:46:56 PM »
As any place with water in the summer YEMV.

Intrinsicaly, suitable for kids, easy walk from gesher meitarim, you can continue down hill to motza and take a bus back from there if you don't want to hike back up.
No one can tell you that it won't be full of chiloni young women exactly when you get there + one of the three reasons we don't enter a churva... v'ha@mevinyavin

It may also be full of men using it as a mikva

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2023, 01:19:11 PM »
It may also be full of men using it as a mikva

True story: a couple weeks ago we came out of Chizkiyahu's tunnel in Ir David. It was late in the afternoon, and we had enjoyed the tunnel all to ourselves. As we were going up the stairs at the end, an Israeli guy was coming down and asked if it was empty inside so he could be tovel. The water was well below my knees the entire time, so I have no idea what he was thinking, and I sure hope nobody coming after us discovered his attempts to do so.

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2023, 02:05:34 PM »
Beut Guvrim national park. Has various parts.  I particularly liked the self guided ancient archeology walk.
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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2023, 04:21:12 AM »
Part of a list i made some time ago of all the stuff to do in JLM, sorry I don't have time to format properly

Reccomended books:
Jerusalem: Footsteps through time - ahron horowitz highly recommended to prepare for old city, can use to take a self guided tour
where heaven touches earth - R' Dovid rusof
forever my jerusalem - puah steiner
mekomos hakedoshim - r ym stern
kadmuneinu

KoselKosel Tunnels X2Chain of generations centerOverlook from BreslovIr DavidSouthern ExcavationsZilbermans rooftop (on roof of Armenian shuk)Churva, Slik in basement, memorial to JQ on left sideNissan Beck/Tiferes Yisroel shul (under reconstruction)Ramban Shul/mosque4 Sephardi ShulsAshkenaz compound, menachem tzion shul, eitz chayimBroad Wall (from bayis rishon)Yad Ben Tzvi (model of jlm during bayis rishon)Porat YosefAishBurnt house.
Herodian QuarterCardoBatei Machase, place of 1948 kever Achim, rothchild building (zilberman cheder)Machon HamikdashOld Yishuv CourtKisheleMigdal "David"Armenian pottery (if you want to support them...)Armenian Shuk (or them)Arab Shuk (dito)View on to Har Habayit from Rehov hashalshelesView onto Har Habayis from Cotton Gate + shuk +old mikveh
Ateret kohanim: batei rand, Beit DadonYeshivos: Toras Chaim/Ateret JLM/Chazon YechezkelKoller Shomer Hachomos/Ohel YitzchakTzemach Tzedek Shul
Beit El Kabbala ShulRechov Chevron: Rectman, Maaravim, Chayei Olam, Diskin orphanage, Kollel Reizin, Kollel GaliciaKarai prayer place (ask your LOR)Ramparts Walk on walls.Zion Gate, Har Zion, Martef HaShoah, "Kever Dovid Hamelech", Diaspora Yeshiva, Schindler's graveHar Hazeisim, Kevorim, yad Avshalom, ...Shiloach, GichonMuslim quarterR' Itzele Blazers home..../ batei witenbergMaarat TzidkiyahuRockefeller MuseumMuseum on the SeamPark Teddy, ???? and Montefiore windmill, yemin mosheChotzot hayotzer?Gay ben hinomMigrash Harussim, etzbat og. Underground prisoner's museum, city hall complex, MusraraMea Shearim/Beis Yisroel: Choma Hashlishit, Berlanders, Mandelbaum gate/chut shel chessed Toldos Aharon, Avrham Yitzcahk, Shuk, Shteibelach, Breslov, Tfieres Bachurm, R' elyashiv's house, ohel sarah, bais yosef novardok. Mir, BY shteibs, mikva bas sheva, zviller mikva, shomrei emunim, old stolin, slonim, satmar, r' elbaz, zupnik, many many other shuls, nechamas bakery, klaf stores, tt meah shearim, Etiopia, Bikur Cholim, Bucharim, Geula: Bais Moshiach, Yazdim, Har Tzvi, Dushinsky, Brisk, Zichron mOshe, achva, Reishis chachma, americanishe shul, Lemel School (Eitz Chaim) Eidson Theater (housing) Ahavat Shalom, Anti smartphone campaigners, Shchunot Hatzafon (east to west): Har Hatzofim, overlooks (makom hamikdash, jordan, city) british war cemetery, French hill, ammunition hill, kever shimon hatzadik, park kivrei sanhedrin, rachmastrivke, anti lightrail protests, sanhedria bais hakvaros, Brisk (r dovid) RT Kaplan, ezras torah, hadar geula, belz, gur, shikun chabad, romemah tayelet, old rommema/shikun harabanim, lifta. gesher meitarim, merkaz harav, Mossad harav kook, angel's bakery, gush katif museum, , kiryat moshe shul complex, givat shaul watertower shul, Shuk Hasitonaiold roman road to jlm, har hamenuchos, Remains of Deir Yassin, Ramchal Shul, Khal Bnei Torah, Nveh Campus, outlooks to harei jlm, motza, Beit Zayit (town, reservoir), satafalong the light rail/city center: old post office, kikar zion, ben yehuda,
 Northern Suburbs: park pisgat zev, yaar mir, king husseins palace, kever shmuel hanavi, new stolin, RS 770, out looks from ramot and ramat shlomo, mevaseret.
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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2023, 06:47:20 AM »
This is great.
Any chance you can fix formatting and provide more info on the locations? I know it's time consuming, but would provide a tremendous benefit for all.

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2023, 07:37:14 AM »
Chat gpt output, probably missing or misunderstood some things

Sure, let's organize your list for better readability and add brief descriptions where possible:

**Recommended Books:**
1. "Jerusalem: Footsteps Through Time" by Ahron Horowitz: A great book for preparing a self-guided tour in the old city.
2. "Where Heaven Touches Earth" by R' Dovid Rusof: A comprehensive guide to the holy sites in Jerusalem.
3. "Forever My Jerusalem" by Puah Shteiner: A first-hand account of the siege of Jerusalem's Old City by Jordanian troops in 1948.
4. "Mekomos Hakedoshim" by R' YM Stern: A guide to the holy sites in Israel.
5. "Kadmuneinu": A comprehensive travel guide and reference book for the religious sites in Jerusalem.

**Places to Visit:**

1. Kosel and Kosel Tunnels: Western Wall and the network of tunnels underneath it that reveals the engineering marvel of ancient Jerusalem.
2. Chain of Generations Center: A unique center that connects you with the history of the Jewish people.
3. Overlook from Breslov: A viewing point that provides panoramic views of the city.
4. Ir David: City of David, the original urban core of ancient Jerusalem.
5. Southern Excavations: Discover the ancient city's past with these archaeological explorations.
6. Zilbermans Rooftop: Located on the roof of the Armenian market (shuk), it offers unique views of the city.
7. Churva Synagogue: Also known as the Hurva Synagogue, it is a historic site with a memorial to Jewish Quarter (JQ) on the left side.
8. Nissan Beck/Tiferes Yisroel Synagogue: A historic synagogue currently under reconstruction.
9. Ramban Synagogue: One of the oldest active synagogues in Jerusalem, located in the Jewish Quarter of the Old City.
10. Four Sephardi Synagogues: A complex of synagogues located in the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem.
11. Ashkenaz Compound: This area houses several Ashkenazi synagogues including the Menachem Zion Shul and Eitz Chayim.
12. Broad Wall: A significant archaeological site dating from the First Temple period.
13. Yad Ben Tzvi: Features a model of Jerusalem during the First Temple period.
14. Porat Yosef Yeshiva: One of the most prominent and respected Sephardic Yeshivot.
15. Aish HaTorah Yeshiva: A network of Jewish educational programs and learning centers.
16. The Burnt House: An archaeological site that provides a glimpse into the destruction of the Second Temple.

**In the Herodian Quarter:**

17. Cardo: An ancient Roman road in the Jewish Quarter.

18. Batei Machase: Historic neighborhood with the place of 1948 Kever Achim and Rothschild building.

19. Machon Hamikdash: The Temple Institute, an organization dedicated to the rebuilding of the Third Temple.

20. Old Yishuv Court Museum: The museum is a window into the lives of the Jewish community in Jerusalem during the late Ottoman and British Mandate periods.

21. Kishele: The Ottoman-era prison recently unearthed under the Kishle police station.

22. Tower of David: A historic fortress with a museum that depicts 4,000 years of Jerusalem's history.

23. Armenian pottery: Visit local shops if you want to support the Armenian community.

24. Armenian Shuk: Traditional market selling a variety of goods.

25. Arab Shuk: Another market to explore for traditional products and food.

**Viewpoints:**

26. View onto Har Habayit from Rehov Hashalsheles: Get a unique view of the Temple Mount.

27. View onto Har Habayis from Cotton Gate: Another viewpoint offering a different perspective of the Temple Mount.

**In Ateret Kohanim:**

28. Batei Rand and Beit Dadon: These are significant buildings in the Jewish Quarter of the Old City.

**Yeshivos:**

29. Toras Chaim, Ateret JLM, Chazon Yechezkel: Prominent Jewish educational institutions in Jerusalem.

30. Koller Shomer Hachomos/Ohel Yitzchak: Known for their historical and religious significance.

31. Tzemach Tzedek Shul: An iconic synagogue in the Old City.

**In Beit El:**

32. Kabbala Shul: A place of prayer and study that follows the teachings of the Kabbalah.

**On Rechov Chevron:**

33. Rectman, Maaravim, Chayei Olam, Diskin Orphanage, Kollel Reizin, Kollel Galicia: These are important landmarks that showcase the diverse culture and history of the city.

**Religious Sites:**

34. Karai Prayer Place: An important place of worship, but it's recommended to ask your Local Orthodox Rabbi (LOR) before visiting.

35. Ramparts Walk: An exhilarating walk along the walls of the Old City, offering panoramic views.

36. Zion Gate, Har Zion: Historic gate and mountain with significant religious and historical importance.

37. Martef HaShoah: The Holocaust Cellar, a small Holocaust museum.

38. "Kever Dovid Hamelech": King David's Tomb, a holy site located on Mount Zion.

39. Diaspora Yeshiva: A Jewish educational institution on Mount Zion.

40. Schindler's Grave: The final resting place of Oskar Schindler, who saved many Jews during the Holocaust.

**On Har Hazeisim:**

41. Kevorim, Yad Avshalom: Jewish tombs and the Monument of Avshalom, a landmark of Jerusalem.

**In the Muslim Quarter:**

42. Home of R' Itzele Blazer: The house of Rabbi Yitzchak Blazer, a prominent 19th-century rabbi.

43. Batei Witenberg: Historic houses with unique architecture.

44. Maarat Tzidkiyahu: Also known as Zedekiahís Cave, a historic underground quarry.

**Museums:**

45. Rockefeller Museum: An archaeological museum that houses a large collection of artifacts unearthed in the excavations conducted in Mandatory Palestine, in the 1920s and 1930s.

46. Museum on the Seam: A socio-political contemporary art museum located on the geographic seam line between the eastern and western parts of Jerusalem.

**In Teddy Park:**

47. Montefiore Windmill: A historic windmill and an unmistakable Jerusalem landmark.

48. Yemin Moshe: A historic neighborhood with picturesque narrow lanes and beautiful stone houses.

**Others:**

49. Migdal "David": The Tower of David, a historic fortress with a museum that illustrates 4,000 years of Jerusalem's history.

Yes, there's a lot more to cover:

**In Mea Shearim/Beis Yisroel:**

50. Choma Hashlishit: Also known as the Third Wall, is an ancient protective wall.

51. Berlanders: Referencing to the Shul of Berlanders, a religious point of interest.

52. Mandelbaum Gate: Historic checkpoint between Israeli and Jordanian sectors of Jerusalem from 1948 to 1967.

53. Toldos Aharon: Hasidic dynasty originating in Jerusalem, with a significant following there.

**In Bucharim, Geula:**

54. Bais Moshiach: A shul associated with the Chabad-Lubavitch Hasidic movement.

55. Yazdim: A bakery known for its unique middle eastern breads.

56. Har Tzvi: A synagogue named after Rabbi Tzvi Pesach Frank, former Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem.

57. Dushinsky: A Hasidic dynasty named after Rabbi Yosef Tzvi Dushinsky, first Chief Rabbi of the Edah HaChareidis of Jerusalem.

**Schchunot Hatzafon (East to West):**

58. Har Hatzofim: Also known as Mount Scopus, offers panoramic views of Jerusalem.

59. French Hill: A neighborhood and settlement in northern East Jerusalem.

60. Ammunition Hill: A former Jordanian army stronghold, conquered by the Israeli army in the Six Day War, now a national memorial site.

**In Northern Suburbs:**

61. Park Pisgat Zev: A neighborhood in East Jerusalem developed by Israel after the 1967 Six-Day War.

62. King Hussein's Palace: Referring to one of the various palaces owned by King Hussein of Jordan.

63. Kever Shmuel HaNavi: Tomb of Samuel the Prophet, a significant Jewish holy site located in the Jerusalem neighborhood of Shimon HaTzadik.

64. New Stolin: A Hasidic dynasty with a significant presence in Jerusalem.

Please note that some of these descriptions are brief and may not capture the full cultural or historical significance of the locations. It's always a good idea to research a little more before visiting.

My apologies for missing that part. Let me provide the information:

1. **Outlooks to harei jlm:** This could refer to various points in Jerusalem where you can enjoy a panoramic view of the Jerusalem hills (Harei Yerushalayim). Some of these viewpoints are the Haas Promenade (Tayelet), Mount Scopus, and the Mount of Olives.

2. **Motza:** This is a neighborhood on the western edge of Jerusalem. It's known for its old-world charm with stone houses and countryside views. It's a serene place for a stroll.

3. **Beit Zayit (town, reservoir):** Beit Zayit is a moshav, or cooperative agricultural community, located in the Jerusalem hills. Nearby, you can find the Beit Zayit Reservoir, a beautiful spot for picnics and bird-watching.

4. **Sataf:** This site located in the Jerusalem hills is part of the KKL-JNF's efforts to revive traditional agriculture. It's a great place for hiking, with springs, terraces, and stunning views.

5. **Along the light rail/city center: Old Post Office, Kikar Zion, Ben Yehuda:** The Jerusalem Light Rail is a tram line that travels from Pisgat Ze'ev in the north to Mount Herzl in the west. Along the route, you'll pass by several notable locations. The Old Post Office is a historic building, Kikar Zion is a popular square (also known as Zion Square), and Ben Yehuda Street is a pedestrian mall lined with shops, restaurants, and street performers.

6. **Northern Suburbs: Park Pisgat Zev, Yaar Mir, King Hussein's Palace, Kever Shmuel Hanavi, New Stolin, RS 770, outlooks from Ramot and Ramat Shlomo, Mevaseret:** These are all places located in the northern parts of Jerusalem or in the nearby suburb of Mevaseret Zion. They include parks, forests (Yaar Mir), historical and religious sites (Kever Shmuel Hanavi is the Tomb of Prophet Samuel), neighborhoods (Pisgat Zev, Ramot, Ramat Shlomo), and yeshivas (New Stolin, RS 770).

Please note that King Hussein's Palace might be a mistake in the original list, as it is not known to be a place in Jerusalem. King Hussein was the king of Jordan, and his palaces are in Jordan, not Jerusalem.

Once again, I recommend checking the current accessibility of these sites before visiting, as circumstances can change.
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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2023, 09:33:44 AM »
WOW!
thanks yfr bachur for this list!
and thanks to yuneeq for all the work  he did to make it user friendly!
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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2023, 05:52:05 AM »
I basicaly have it saved as a draft email, it's things i put together over the years from exploring and guidebooks, I haven't been to it all.
This is how it came out when I copy pasted to ddf.
I also have a countrywide list of stuff.
I doesn;t include jeeping, accomidations, other service providers or the like....

A few corrections to the formated list:

Herodian Quarter is a site to itself, not a heading.
Yeshivos, ateret kohanim, beit el - are part of the following entery, not a heading
Batei Rand and Beit Dadon are in the muslim quarter.
PArk teddy is a site to itself, not a heading.
add there also mishkenot shananim and sultans pool
52 mandelbuams gate is now rav arushes chut shel chesed
Bais Moshiach actually has zero connection with chabad. It's a mansion built ~100 years ago by a Bucharian?? jew, specifically as the future residence of moshiach. Today it is used by schools.

If I have time, i'll try to review and correct the whole list, and what chatgpt cut out.
Ba

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2023, 06:44:08 PM »
tell us what you have done already, and what you interests are...
for example I could tell you to do shvill hamaayanot or the rockefeller museum, but if you're not intetested in hiking or archeology...


Hiking-mild, archeology-yes for sure if possible

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2023, 08:00:39 PM »

Hiking-mild, archeology-yes for sure if possible

If you're interested in archaeology Dig for a Day in Beit Guvrin is excellent. And if you want something even closer to Yerushalayim check out the Temple Mount Sifting Project.

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Re: Off The Beaten path in Yerushalaim
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2023, 08:41:12 PM »
If you're interested in archaeology Dig for a Day in Beit Guvrin is excellent. And if you want something even closer to Yerushalayim check out the Temple Mount Sifting Project.
Both are fun with kids, though I wouldn't do either without kids.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.