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Author Topic: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024  (Read 40248 times)

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #460 on: April 08, 2024, 01:15:34 PM »
I was reading that diamond ring (25 seconds or so before totality) isn't safe to view with the naked eye
It's not. But your eye is more sensitive than your phone.
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #461 on: April 08, 2024, 01:17:07 PM »
It's not. But your eye is more sensitive than your phone.
So I can take a picture and look through the viewfinder, but can't look at it? What about diamond ring after totality? Same thing?

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #462 on: April 08, 2024, 01:19:26 PM »
So I can take a picture and look through the viewfinder, but can't look at it? What about diamond ring after totality? Same thing?
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #463 on: April 08, 2024, 02:04:42 PM »
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #464 on: April 08, 2024, 02:19:24 PM »
Can just see the first nibble in the corner here in NYC. Can't seem to photograph it from my phone (even with the glasses filtering). Any tips?

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #465 on: April 08, 2024, 02:34:26 PM »
Hanging out at Plattsburgh airport
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #466 on: April 08, 2024, 02:39:35 PM »
Hanging out at Plattsburgh airport

any clouds ?

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #467 on: April 08, 2024, 02:41:03 PM »
In Campbell, TX. Clouds just cleared. This is surreal!

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #468 on: April 08, 2024, 02:47:44 PM »
Indefinitely
is there a reason it says on all glasses not to look more than 3 minutes at a time?
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #469 on: April 08, 2024, 02:49:34 PM »
Can just see the first nibble in the corner here in NYC. Can't seem to photograph it from my phone (even with the glasses filtering). Any tips?

Interesting when they asked R.Chayim Kanievsky why ChaZal was not mesaken to say a blessing on the solar eclipse,
R.Chayim answered because the solar eclipse is not a good sign, as the Gemoro says that there are 4 sins that causes
the solar eclipse: 1. Av Beis Din not being properly eulogized  2. A woman was abused and nobody came to her aid
3. Two brothers were murdered at the same time
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #470 on: April 08, 2024, 02:50:31 PM »
Interesting when they asked R.Chayim Kanievsky why ChaZal was not mesaken to say a blessing on the solar eclipse,
R.Chayim answered because the solar eclipse is not a good sign, as the Gemoro says that there are 4 sins that causes
the solar eclipse: 1. Av Beis Din not being properly eulogized  2. A woman was abused and nobody came to her aid
3. Two brothers were murdered at the same time
You're supposed to marvel at Hashem's creation but it's not appropriate to say a blessing
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Did you purposely leave out the 4th reason ??

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #471 on: April 08, 2024, 02:57:29 PM »
Stupid question... if an ecplise is a naturally occuring event which can be accurately predicted because we know the paths of movement of the sun and the moon, why is it considered to be any kind of sign?
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #472 on: April 08, 2024, 02:58:34 PM »
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #473 on: April 08, 2024, 03:00:25 PM »
Stupid question... if an ecplise is a naturally occuring event which can be accurately predicted because we know the paths of movement of the sun and the moon, why is it considered to be any kind of sign?
See pages 173-176 for some sources (Though he doesn't like the answers)
https://hakirah.org/vol23brown.pdf

And here:
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/16891/good-and-bad-omen-on-something-that-can-be-calculated-in-advance

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #474 on: April 08, 2024, 03:01:40 PM »

Not the same... Like watching the Siyum HaShas on video... Lehavdil.
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #475 on: April 08, 2024, 03:01:58 PM »
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #476 on: April 08, 2024, 03:10:17 PM »
Stupid question... if an ecplise is a naturally occuring event which can be accurately predicted because we know the paths of movement of the sun and the moon, why is it considered to be any kind of sign?

That's not a stupid question!

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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #477 on: April 08, 2024, 03:10:57 PM »
Please pray for me I'm driving with my eclipse glasses on
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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #478 on: April 08, 2024, 03:14:19 PM »
Stupid question... if an ecplise is a naturally occuring event which can be accurately predicted because we know the paths of movement of the sun and the moon, why is it considered to be any kind of sign?
copying from here but also heard from my ruv at sh"s

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The Gemara Sukka 29 discusses  "Likuy Chamah" seem to refer to solar and lunar eclipses. Rav  Yonasaon  Eineshitz (Ya'aros Devash, volume 2, p. 67b) asks that an eclipse is a natural phenomenon that occurs according to a set astronomical pattern. How can a natural phenomenon be a harbinger of inauspicious times, if it occurs according to a predictable schedule? He says the gemara is not talking about exlipses because an eclipse is not called a "diminution" ("Likuy") of the heavenly bodies. Eclipses are merely shadows that are cast when the light of the sun is blocked by another celestial body from reaching the earth. Rather, the Gemara refers to sunspots and similar phenomena which occur on the moon (such as transient lunar phenomena).

- The Aruch Laner says that the Gemara indeed refers to eclipses, and the question of Rav Yonasan Eibshitz is not problematic for the following reason. Rashi in Bereishis (1:14) writes that the fourth day of the week (Wednesday) is predisposed to certain illnesses. Even though the day occurs on a natural calendrical cycle, it is still associated with tribulations. Similarly, the Chachamim knew that the set times that Hash-m arranges for eclipses to occur are times of judgment for the world. Therefore, it is possible for an eclipse to be both a natural phenomenon and an ominous omen.
He points out that the Gemara repeatedly refers to an eclipse as "during the time (bi'Zeman) that an eclipse occurs." These words imply that an eclipse happens at an established, known time.


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Re: Total Solar Eclipse North America April 8 2024
« Reply #479 on: April 08, 2024, 03:18:49 PM »
Stupid question... if an ecplise is a naturally occuring event which can be accurately predicted because we know the paths of movement of the sun and the moon, why is it considered to be any kind of sign?

RAV AVIGDOR MILLER ON THE SIGN OF THE SOLAR ECLIPSE

Q:
I was told that when there is a solar eclipse, that’s a sign of misfortune for the gentiles. But isn’t it just something that happens according to a mathematical cycle, something we can predict?

A:
I was waiting two weeks for somebody to ask this question.

The Gemara in Sukkah (29a) says חמה לוקה – when there’s an eclipse of the sun, סימן רע לאומות העולם – it’s a sign of misfortune that will come upon the gentiles.

And so this gentleman rightly asks, how can it be a sign of misfortune if it happens according to mathematical position? When the sun is eclipsed, we understand it as a result of the moon coming in between the earth and the sun; and the moon covers up either part of the sun and you can’t see the whole sun. Sometimes the entire sun is blotted out by the moon. But whatever it is, it has to be so. It’s a mathematical sequence; we know it’s going to be ahead of time? So how can that serve as a siman of misfortune that will come upon the goyim? It’s a result of natural causes.

And the answer is as follows. The answer is there is a more important purpose in everything. Although Hakadosh Baruch Hu made the laws of nature – He is the one who fashioned these laws, and everything functions according to a seder, according to rules that He established – nevertheless, there is a purpose beyond what we think is the normal behavior of the laws of nature. And the purpose of this phenomenon of the solar eclipse is to let you know that there’s going to be puraniyos on umos haolam.

The gentiles, not only do some of them worship the sun, but they count the months according to the sun. The Jews count according to the moon; they don’t worship the moon, but they count according to the moon. The gentiles however count according to the sun. It’s a sun year instead of a moon year. That’s why there’s a difference between their year and our year.

So the sun represents the gentile nations and whenever you see the sun eclipsed it’s a sign that Hakadosh Baruch Hu intends to bring misfortune on the gentiles. The Am Yisroel, that’s the nation represented by the moon, will eclipse the nations of the world.

We see what happens. The nations go down in the dust one after the other. It’s a fact of history. We cannot ignore all the history of the nations that we have ever heard of. No nation has ever continued to this day. The Am Yisroel is the only one that persists.

Once upon a time there was Shinor and Elasar, all kinds of nations. Mitzrayim was a very powerful nation. All gone. Egypt is not the same Egypt. Different people are there. Arabs are there today. Once upon a time Egypt was not a Semitic country. No Arabs were in Egypt. Egypt is gone.

Amon was our enemy neighbor for a long time. It disappeared. It’s important to know that. In the times of the Shoftim when they were harassed by the nations around them they didn’t think that someday Amon would disappear. If they had been told of that, it would have been very welcome news. It would be hard to believe. It was a nation full of people with their armies. Amon will someday disappear?! It can’t be! But Amon disappeared. There’s nothing left of Amon today at all.

What happened to Edom? Edom was a powerful neighbor. They made wars against the Bnei Yisrael for a long time. It disappeared entirely.

What happened to Midyan? We had trouble from them. They persecuted us. What happened to Moav? They went down into the dust. Nothing remains of them.

It’s important to think about that, to be reminded of what history testifies to, that there’s a siman ra, there’s misfortune, on the nations of the world. And in order to let us know that, to remind us about that siman ra so the chamah is lokeh – sometimes you see an eclipse of the sun; so don’t make the mistake of saying it’s only the result of natural circumstances. It’s a siman ra leumos haolam. Hashem is demonstrating the important principle that they’ll all go down into the earth.

If you’re looking for Bavel today, you have to have an excavator, a bulldozer. It’s under the soil.

The palace of Achashveirosh was unearthed after many years. A French consul was there, and he dug up the palace. He said the palace is exactly the way it’s described in Megillas Esther, exactly. It’s been under the earth for a long time. Paras was a tremendous country. It’s all gone, all gone. Nothing remains.

Ancient Greece. Ancient Greece was a powerful country. Alexander the Great ruled over the entire Near East. He didn’t live long by the way, Alexander the Great; but his nation disappeared. It’s a remarkable thing to study.

Aram, it’s not the Aram of today. Aram is today Mohammedans. A different nation. Aram is gone entirely.

If you would have told that to people in the ancient times, it would have been hard to believe. Like it’s hard to believe now that someday there won’t be any more Germany. If you’ll look for Germany, you’ll have to dig under the ground. They’ll be buried and forgotten. Even though right now Germany is a powerful country, other nations seem to be powerful, don’t be impressed. Their time will come too.

So once more; although the eclipse of the sun is an expected phenomenon and it has to happen at certain times, nevertheless when it does happen it’s to teach us, to remind us of this great principle of סימן רע לאומות העולם. Only the Am Yisroel will be forever.

Tape # E-239 (July 13, 2000)