Insects, Infestation, fruits&veg etc. Bedikas Tolaim Master Thread

[mgarfin]

Blueberries

I haven't seen in the groceries Blueberries with Chasidshe hechsherim. like from Golden flow, Edan, bodek...
I do see Acai mix with Blueberries from Golden flow.

What can be behind this?

[elikay]

Blueberries

I haven't seen in the groceries Blueberries with Chasidshe hechsherim. like from Golden flow, Edan, bodek...
I do see Acai mix with Blueberries from Golden flow.

What can be behind this?

An educated guess would be that they are currently infested. (they all more or less come from the same 2-3 sources).

[mgarfin]

An educated guess would be that they are currently infested. (they all more or less come from the same 2-3 sources).

So why can Acai mix have blueberries?

[thaber]

from CRC: (regularly updated)

   Blueberries, fresh   
Agitate the blueberries in soapy water for a minute, and then agitate one more time in plain water. This does not apply to organic and u-pick blueberries which require the thrip cloth method.

   Blueberries, frozen   Acceptable Without Certification
Frozen blueberries, without any kosher sensitive ingredients added, are acceptable without certification. Organic frozen blueberries are only recommended if being pureed.

[imayid2]

from CRC: (regularly updated)

   Blueberries, fresh   
Agitate the blueberries in soapy water for a minute, and then agitate one more time in plain water. This does not apply to organic and u-pick blueberries which require the thrip cloth method.

   Blueberries, frozen   Acceptable Without Certification
Frozen blueberries, without any kosher sensitive ingredients added, are acceptable without certification. Organic frozen blueberries are only recommended if being pureed.

The CRCs standard for תולעים is substandard according to many.

[yitzgar]

The CRCs standard for תולעים is substandard according to many.

What specifically?

[imayid2]

What specifically?

Perfect example would be the fact that they say frozen blueberries are ok without certification. What about תולעים?
They don’t truly believe that tiny insects are problematic.

[Alexsei]

Perfect example would be the fact that they say frozen blueberries are ok without certification. What about תולעים?
They don’t truly believe that tiny insects are problematic.

Or, maybe they consider the commercial washing to be doing a sufficient job getting them off

[aygart]

Perfect example would be the fact that they say frozen blueberries are ok without certification. What about תולעים?
They don’t truly believe that tiny insects are problematic.

This is consistent with their method of washing

[imayid2]

This is consistent with their method of washing

Which is insufficient

[imayid2]

Or, maybe they consider the commercial washing to be doing a sufficient job getting them off

So clueless instead? Take your pick

[Alexsei]

Which is insufficient

Is this a machlokes in metzios or in Halacha?

[yitzgar]

Perfect example would be the fact that they say frozen blueberries are ok without certification. What about תולעים?
They don’t truly believe that tiny insects are problematic.

What does this mean? They hold that they are small enough to not be problematic? Why is that substandard? It would just be a machlokes. Or are you accusing them of not believing that there is an issue of eating bugs that are nireh l'enayim?

[imayid2]

Is this a machlokes in metzios or in Halacha?

It is a mistake in Halacha and perhaps some denial of metzius

[yitzgar]

This is consistent with their method of washing

Fwiw, I believe star k has a similar method, maybe even the same exact

[imayid2]

Fwiw, I believe star k has a similar method, maybe even the same exact

Er no

[yitzgar]

Er no

You are correct, I double checked. Star k says to soak and agitate in soapy water and then rinse off each berry. Repeat and then check for scales

[imayid2]

What does this mean? They hold that they are small enough to not be problematic? Why is that substandard? It would just be a machlokes.

According to the people who believe they are wrong then they are substandard.

[yitzgar]

According to the people who believe they are wrong then they are substandard.

Ok so what specifically is the machlokes?

[imayid2]

Or are you accusing them of not believing that there is an issue of eating bugs that are nireh l'enayim?

Or maintaining that insects which are nireh lenayim, are not.